allnameswereout | # 1271 | 2010-09-18, 05:14 | Report

I contacted a lawyer. He found it an interesting case, and is looking into it according to Dutch and EU jurisdiction. He may blog about the question in general (not specific case).

jalyst | # 1272 | 2010-09-20, 06:33 | Report

Nokia is working on an internal Maemo which will form the basis of the first Meego release for N9.
So I'm not sure how people can characterise Maemo as dead.....

The 1st major release of Meego on Nokia phones will basically be an improved Maemo w/a compatibility layer for Meego.
Devices after the N9 will be based entirely on Meego-Core-xx (Vanilla Meego)...

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geohsia | # 1273 | 2010-09-20, 07:08 | Report

Well, we knew already about Harmattan-MeeGo. If you want to call that PR 2.0 / Maemo 6 you can, but at the end of the day for the N900 users its still useless because community-Harmattan-MeeGo for the N900 will be stripped down so no phone, no Skype, no Flash. Could it be retrofitted? Maybe, but I guess it all depends on who sticks around until then. If Nokia decides to spend the effort to get PR 2.0 on the N900 I'd be ecstatic. Not holding my breath though. They've made no indication that that will happen.

sjgadsby | # 1274 | 2010-09-20, 10:45 | Report

MeeGo (not -Harmattan) is the "stripped down" one, but even so, the Handset UX does still include a phone application, a SMS application, and all those basics. It does not include an Adobe Flash plug-in or Skype as they aren't open souce, but if Adobe or Skype make MeeGo ARMEL installers available, their software will run.

geohsia | # 1275 | 2010-09-20, 19:17 | Report

Are referring to the community edition which we supposedly will be able to run on the N900? I thought the Handset UX was closed source. If not, that's great but I'm still not going to believe it until I see it. Everything that I've heard so far indicates that the community edition of MeeGo on the N900 will not be usable for regular users.

Reffyyyy | # 1276 | 2010-09-20, 19:21 | Report

Calls in NITDroid are working (the actual sound in the call is being worked on) and I believe a member on the MeeGo forum (he is also a member here) made calls on MeeGo for N900.

wmarone | # 1277 | 2010-09-20, 19:23 | Report

He's referring to the MeeGo N900 reference implementation.

There is nothing closed source about MeeGo. What few closed bits there are lie outside MeeGo as hardware support and are readily available to anyone that owns an N900.

This could, of course, be improved to the point that it would be usable by most people. Unlike Maemo there are no closed bits central to the OS and reference UIs that preclude community contributions.

Stskeeps did post about having made a complete phone call using MeeGo on the N900, which is a great step.

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flailingmonkey | # 1278 | 2010-09-20, 19:56 | Report

It was made clear that the Harmattan "Hackers Edition"/community edition would have the closed bits working and included. Meaning Skype, Flash 10.1, Maps, etc etc, all working. With all the tmo FUD threads, it isn't hard to miss this, so I won't blame you all =P

Still, that won't be available until the Harmattan SDK beta releases, so MeeGo handset reference UX should get our focus.

geohsia | # 1279 | 2010-09-20, 20:02 | Report

So there is hope that we'll get Flash 10.1 on the N900? :-)

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wmarone | # 1280 | 2010-09-20, 20:53 | Report

Maybe "unofficially," but considering how Adobe behaves towards mobile devices I wouldn't count on it.