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Yep, new transflective screen, better for outdoor use. Light sensor for better viewing ergonomics in dark, that's good. Still plastic foil touch though.
 
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Another question - what is the significance of the USB OTG support? I have a external 2.5" drive that I use to suck photos from a card reader, so I understand the On-The-Go concept. But what capabilities does this support give the N810, and how is it different from Host mode (which I know isn't supported officially)? Could one, for example, mount and access a flash drive via the USB port?

As a general comment, I've been lurking here for several months just itching to buy a N800. I decided to wait to see what the new tablet would be and think I'll spend the extra to get the N810. Perhaps unlike a lot of other posters I think Nokia made some great decisions with it and, like Texrat has suggested many times, they're trying to learn from the 770-800 transition. They've given more choice to the product line and they're very obviously supporting N800 owners. To me "it's not much different than a N800" is actually a good thing.

Maybe looking at Nokia's phones is a good model for how they're positioning the IT line. The E51 just came out recently - is it really that much different than the E65 except for the form factor? Both are supported, both run the exact same OS. If the IT market was out there then 3 or 4 models with different configurations would give people options for what features work best for them. Perhaps that's where they're going...

Last edited by exon; 2007-10-18 at 18:31. Reason: Creepy typo
 
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Originally Posted by exon View Post
what capabilities does this support give the N810, and how is it different from Host mode (which I know isn't supported officially)? Could one, for example, mount and access a flash drive via the USB port?
OTG gives you limited host mode without the power drain of host. It's not as flexible as having true host mode, but two OTG devices talking won't be as big a drain on your battery. And yeah, if your flash drive is OTG-compliant, it should mount as external storage on the n810. (whether it shows up as another 'device' or just mounts as a storage location is up to the OS guys, but either way we should be able to access it as easily as any other storage location)

The big capabilities imo are n810/mass storage (camera/HDD/phone), n810/printer and n810/n810.
 
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#84
well i know that the N800 has the OTG chip inside it so maybe with the new OS this will be enabled on the N800 too?
 
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Originally Posted by johnkzin View Post
Learn something from the unix pipeline.
Speaking of which, where's the pipe symbol on the keyboard? Sigh, remapping time...
 
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I think the new device is almost perfect. But what makes it not perfect also makes it absolute crap.
Yes, the makert is moving towards smaller, but what about standards? One can argue that miniSD and microSD are also standard, but they are ridiculous standards (especially mini - micro could be useful for watches or stuff like that).
Full size SH could also use miniSD and microSD, but the opposite is not true.

I have been using pocketPCs for more than 10 years and I did think they were the best until I bought my 770.
When the n800 came out I bought it instantly and I thought that the big mistakes in the 770 were corrected (especially the almost-nokia-only RS-MMC).
Even if I thought the n800 was the best and even if I had (have) the 770 and the n800, as soon as I first saw the n810 I thought "I HAVE TO GET IT!". I would have kept all three and I would still have though it was money well spent. Until I heard there is no full size SD support...

I have an 8GB SD card that I bought not so long ago, and another 4GB card. That's almost €200 (or at least is was when I bought them)! And now I am expected to throw them away and spend the money again on worst, most expensive and NOT (at least in my opinion) standard cards.

Everything else about the n810 was my dreams come true... But without full size SD support, I will have to pass and feel really, really bad. The n810 went from an absolutely perfect machine to one that is of no use to me.

I am keeping my 770 and N800 and keep dreaming.
 
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The iPhone type screen would have made the thing even more expensive, and is probably not that great for stylus use anyway.
 
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I am sorry, I am so disappointed I can't stop complaining... It was so close to perfection!...
Nokia says they changed the card type because they couldn't fit a full size SD. I must say that is a terrible reason... I wouldn't have minded at all if the size as the same as the N800.
What's the N820 gonna be like? Matchbox size but with a 320x240 screen, no keyboard, no wifi, no bluetooth... because that wouldn't fit the size?
No matter what people say about microsoft, they have great products, and windows mobile is on of them. But no MS device so far has matched the n800 (or 770 for the matter) usability. And they are smaller! But the screen is unusable for a rich internet experience...

I really have no words for such a mistake (yet I can't seem to stop complaining... sorry... I'll try not to repeat it).
 
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Originally Posted by Schprlock View Post
I am sorry, I am so disappointed I can't stop complaining... It was so close to perfection!...
Nokia says they changed the card type because they couldn't fit a full size SD. I must say that is a terrible reason... I wouldn't have minded at all if the size as the same as the N800.
What's the N820 gonna be like? Matchbox size but with a 320x240 screen, no keyboard, no wifi, no bluetooth... because that wouldn't fit the size?
No matter what people say about microsoft, they have great products, and windows mobile is on of them. But no MS device so far has matched the n800 (or 770 for the matter) usability. And they are smaller! But the screen is unusable for a rich internet experience...

I really have no words for such a mistake (yet I can't seem to stop complaining... sorry... I'll try not to repeat it).
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I actually think size concerns are a VERY good reason to change card formats to the smaller. Yeah, it's an inconvenience, but it makes sense to me. Heck, I would have understood even more if they had gone with MICRO sd.

And do note that the screen size stayed the same. Getting the overall size down while maintaining screen size was the right goal IMO.
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I will not buy a 810 simply base on the principle of the SD->miniSD change over. I may consider a n800 for 60 more if it includes a GPS receiver.

However....I probably won't buy it anyway simply becuase I like TomTom better and I don't like Nokia's subscription model.
 
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