Nokia has a huge fan base. If they serve it right, they will be selling it like hotcakes. Nokia hardware is the best. they just need to find the right engine.

I've been waiting for something like this. Ubuntu seems very excited about Qt for the future of both their mobile and desktop offerings. Nokia deserves all the credit for this. Just imagine Ubuntu allocating resources to help move Qt, and maybe even MeeGo, along.

http://arstechnica.com/open-source/n...fer-ubuntu.ars

That is true, but Android can also simply increase performance at the same pace as the performance of the HW increases. iOS will do the same thing. But we are talking the extreme high end here, and battery technology and power consumption do not follow Moore.

Symbian is the best OS for smartphones, it just needs some love and care and is receiving it en mass. This will be evident in 2011 also for the emotional Symbian hater-crowd. It is the number one smartphone OS, has always been number one, and will continue to be number one in the foreseeable future.

MeeGo is something else, an OS for mobile computers. I guess one definition of a mobile computer could be high end smartphone, but even then it will not compete head on with Android and iPhone. The N95 is the pinnacle of smartphones. Nothing released since has been more integrated with better overall functionality and user experience, not until the N8 (in lots of ways, but not all in all). Nokia will not allow any MeeGo device to compete head on with the N8/E7 range of phones, that would be stupid.

So the N9 have to be real good HW vise. It has to have it all, and then some. For MeeGo to have any sort of future in the close to phone end of the "mobile computers" segment, Nokia have to show that MeeGo allows then to produce and sell top notch HW that you simply cannot obtain using Android or WP7. And I think this is exactly what they are doing, unless some of the new CEOs axe it due to the miniscule market segment such a device will enter. When you think about it, what the N9 needs to be. It needs to be a N810 with a 1610 glued to the back, and with todays technology regarding screen, CPU, HDMI and stuff. They don't need to focus all that much on the phone end of things, as long as it works and isn't marketed as a smartphone.

Not necessarily. Win 9x became a lost cause due to inherent limitations and early design decisions that doomed it. The same kind of basic design problems are limiting Symbian now, and I think will limit Android and iOS down the road. From what I see MeeGo is the only mobile OS powerful and capable enough to keep pace with mobile HW for the foreseeable future.

Today's high-end smartphone is tomorrow's basic candybar. Mobile technology is evolving very fast.

Care to explain why?

Again, why? How will - can- Symbian keep up and stay #1 for years with the pace of technology?

Exactly my point!

Not directly, and it' s not necessarily intended to, speaking long-term. Those are smartphone OSs. MeeGo is aimed at the next generation of mobile devices, true mobile computers, of which the N900 is a kinda Model T.

Never used one, but I gotta think something has progressed past a several-years-old model.

It's not up to Nokia. Other manufacturers can do what they want with their MeeGo devices.

Regardless of how it's marketed, if it make calls careful attention must be paid to phone functions. As an example, how many users have here or elswhere complained about the N900 phone functions (which are just fine for me)? Gotta have those custom ringtones...

I'm pretty sure the Model T sold a lot better than the N900 and probably had far fewer warranty and customer care problems. Just saying.

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I've had my i4 for several months already and recently gave away my n900. I gotta say people seem to be looking at this all wrong:

When the N700, N800, N810 came out,they became a niche product with a hard core fanbase of dedicated enthusiasts. Many of them probably thought "this would be even more awesome with a phone attached, so I could carry just one device".

No one is saying the N700/800/810 was a "tragedy" or failure. We respect that it was intended for a smaller audience and wasn't meant to take up the fight with iPhone or any other device. Why couldn't we just accept that fact for the N900 as well? Great device, minimal support, minimal continuity, but all the keys were given to the developers from day one: "here, go forth and make great programs".

Instead, people sit around feeling entitled to great programs and great support and an awesome app store, because the competition have them.

Nokia came through and delivered the N810 in a smaller form factor with a better screen and a phone built in, so you could perhaps start carrying just one device. The rest is up to the user base, just as it was with the previous models.

Somewhere along the line, a lot of people lost track of the red line. The N900 seemed to have a chance to take up the bigger fight for world domination, because so many were excited by what they thought its potential was. The N900 tried for a while to live up to that, but after a while just said "aww, f*ck it, I'm going back to being what I always said I would and not what people want me to be". Which is where we are now and which is why I have an iPhone. I just don't have the time to get as involved with my handset as I would have to, if I still used the N900.

I think it was and still is an awesome device though. I hope you succeed with Meego and 1.3. And may your forums be free of uninformed trolls in the future

Disappointing thread. I mean, the only reason to look here is to see what tags Texrat has given it, and have a laugh at that (and the OP, of course).

Now it almost looks like a real thread, not even in offtopic, while there was such a potential to make this part of the comic canon this site offers as a free service, next to all the FUD as opposed to some real information...