jnwi | # 31 | 2010-10-27, 14:50 | Report

There's no need to keep insulting the OP, even though we're all tired of complaint threads. The steps he described are overly complicated for installing an update, and the core problem totally isn't about realizing to back up the application list.

The worst thing is that he could probably have avoided all the fuss if the application manager would volunteer info about what's conflicting, but instead it just tells you to reflash. Even I had to be told that you need to go back and check the update's details in the menu that appears *before* you try to apply it.

bunanson | # 32 | 2010-10-27, 14:55 | Report

Agree.

bun

ndi | # 33 | 2010-10-27, 14:59 | Report

I fit were up to me, every single piece of electronics that has memory capability would come with an A4 (Letter for the res of you) in big, bold, black letters that said:

"Data you don't have a copy of is data you don't want"

Personally I have at least 2 backups of anything important because backup systems have failed on me. And I strongly prefer backups you can restore manually and partially. I like Maemo backup app because it copies files.

Before staring OTA to 1.3, I have 2 backups called Pre13 using Maemo Backup, an image of rootfs+opt in an IMG, and image of root+optfs in a tarball AND a manual copy of everything on the device in a folder on the PC.

Funny thing is, it did break, and, out of all the copies I had, the imgs were not usable, one of the tarball versions (root+opt) were broken. Out of 4 backups, 2 have failed. If the SD card would have failed, I would have been boned. So yeah I'm paranoid. Bad stuff has happened to me in the past, irreplaceable data has been lost (corrupted pictures from years ago) and I'm touchy.

Oh, and, about those packages that prompt user and break mass installation? That's not an OS fault, it's a package fault. A package should install quietly and add a shortcut for manual (re)configuration, not prompt on install. Halting install for the user to accept EULA is silly. And no, "other" OSs don't do it, there's a -quiet switch for mass installs.

geneven | # 34 | 2010-10-27, 15:05 | Report

I'm afraid my logic and reason doesn't get your point: why might it be detrimental to the functionality of a handset to make a backup before doing an update?

aldevil | # 35 | 2010-10-27, 15:10 | Report

So you're saying Nokia software sucks? ... I AGREE

kureyon | # 36 | 2010-10-28, 04:56 | Report

Should've taken the car in when they issued that recall for dodgy brakes/accelerator/mat/whatever

aligatro | # 37 | 2010-10-28, 05:04 | Report

I wonder how does backup/restore handle OVI apps.

ossipena | # 38 | 2010-10-28, 05:49 | Report

you have to redownload them at ovi store.

Texrat | # 39 | 2010-10-28, 05:58 | Report

Actually that's what happened during my PR1.3 upgrade. Was it just me? Maybe I got PR1.3.1.

ossipena | # 40 | 2010-10-28, 06:24 | Report

I hate to turn a knife in the wound, but what about reading wiki next time?

http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware