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    N900 kernel v45, why with uboot???

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    TiagoTiago | # 21 | 2010-11-15, 12:25 | Report

    I only had a little scare with my N900 not booting for the first few times after i upgraded to the p45 kernel, its working just fine now, and i got a geeky gray console screen everytime i boot up my N900. When i was having difficulties with it in the begining i only blammed myself for upgrading the kernel using the extras-devel repository and without reading up on what might be going on with the fresh new development version.

    If you're messing with somthing as essential as the kernel and you're getting your stuff from the -dev repo, you should be way more tolerant of glitches and near-bricks etc. If you wanna stay on the safe side stay the hell away from the -testing and -devel repos.

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    RobbieThe1st | # 22 | 2010-11-15, 12:32 | Report

    Y'know, I'm not sure what some people are complaining about. I just installed v45, rebooted.
    I get the little tux icon, the various bits of boot-text, it tells me I can interrupt the boot process, then it boots(waits at "loading kernel..." for like 5-10 seconds). I -have- an SD card, but no OS or special partitions on it. On top of that, bootmenu-n900 works too!

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    lunat | # 23 | 2010-11-15, 12:52 | Report

    Originally Posted by RobbieThe1st View Post
    Y'know, I'm not sure what some people are complaining about. I just installed v45, rebooted.
    I get the little tux icon, the various bits of boot-text, it tells me I can interrupt the boot process, then it boots(waits at "loading kernel..." for like 5-10 seconds). I -have- an SD card, but no OS or special partitions on it. On top of that, bootmenu-n900 works too!
    there you right bootmenu and multiboot are good workarounds. but this are realy severe changes you do to the maemo bootprocess, the second involves flashing. just a bootloader once flashed and no other change and not affecting maemo in any other way is imo a very cool thing perspective(if the bugs and usability issues are solved).

    i said it previously: why flash anyways? flashomanie?(just joking) uboot don't need the piggypacking. put the kernel instead somwhere on the filesystem. just tell uboot where it is(thats all that is missing!). put two,three, many kernels there ... and boot whatever you want.

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    ZogG | # 24 | 2010-11-15, 14:19 | Report

    Originally Posted by N900@900MHz View Post
    Wow what a reaction! Monday morning???

    The only discussion i want, how many people are really using this uboot option, and how many don't???
    If there are not so many people are using it, than better remove it, and provide it as a separate installer. So people have a choice what they want to use or not.

    and maybe there are some "power users" wich are not so "powered" to know anything from Maemo/linux. There this forum is for to learn from eachother???

    So if youre so a geek, who knows it all, explain to me how i do have to use this uboot option, or how i remove te boot option from my sd card, without loosing my dat on it.
    no offence, but those options uboot and power kernels for devs and trying out with n900 and not for end user, so u have to be aware what u get when u install it.

    as well the answer was not that unpolite, you can't expect anything else with this title. when u say what n900 has to be and u call one of the options to have second os(isn't it cool) a crap. i woud might write it different if the post was more of asking for help and not as u wrote it.

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    N900@900MHz | # 25 | 2010-11-15, 14:35 | Report

    I have formatted my sd card now, and upgraded to titans v45.
    Everything seem s to work now. I don't even to enter run noloboot wich was quite enoying. I put my data back on the SD card, still works. Yes it is a bit geeky to have a sort of boot/post screen like a pc on a handheld, but hey it is a n900...

    So far i'am again happy with a release of titans kernel (v45), but i still find it a bit overdone to include uboot in de kernel package.

    But everything is working now, including camera and gps,mediaplayer. So i let uboot staying there,maybe in the future i will try another OS, in the mainwhile i stick to maemo, works great so far, so i don't need another one.

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    N900@900MHz | # 26 | 2010-11-15, 14:45 | Report

    Originally Posted by ZogG View Post
    no offence, but those options uboot and power kernels for devs and trying out with n900 and not for end user, so u have to be aware what u get when u install it.

    as well the answer was not that unpolite, you can't expect anything else with this title. when u say what n900 has to be and u call one of the options to have second os(isn't it cool) a crap. i woud might write it different if the post was more of asking for help and not as u wrote it.
    Ok sorry for the title, but howmany people who have actually installed v45, have a lot of trouble with it?
    Before v44 - v45, there where just a litte complains about titans kernels, with the introduction of uboot, there are a lot. Showing the many post about it on this forum.That why i called "crap".... I don't know another word for it.....

    A lot of people are "just upgrading/updating" their decive, unknowing what they are actually doiing. Espacially with the customs kernels from titan they didn't expect the uboot program.
    In the stock PR1.3 was said there is a option for multiboot, i can't find it., but it was said in different post here.

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    anthonie | # 27 | 2010-11-15, 16:08 | Report

    Originally Posted by N900@900MHz View Post
    Ok sorry for the title, but howmany people who have actually installed v45, have a lot of trouble with it?
    Which does not provide proof the v45 is crap.

    Originally Posted by
    Before v44 - v45, there where just a litte complains about titans kernels, with the introduction of uboot, there are a lot. Showing the many post about it on this forum.That why i called "crap".... I don't know another word for it.....
    You know: This morning when I read your post, and there were no reactions yet, I was wondering how people would take your post. I, for one, just took it as an example of the worldwide infamy know as dutch bluntness. And than I thought: Hell no. On a dutch board you'd be criticised for your tone of voice as well. It's the lack, rephrase, it's your lack lack of knowledge that makes you talk in terms of "crap" and the like.

    Originally Posted by
    A lot of people are "just upgrading/updating" their decive, unknowing what they are actually doiing. Espacially with the customs kernels from titan they didn't expect the uboot program.
    These people shouldn't touch these kernels in the first place. And neither should you be their advocate.

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    In the stock PR1.3 was said there is a option for multiboot, i can't find it., but it was said in different post here.
    It was said that the kernel had been changed and made ready for multiboot support which was told to be coming soon after the PR1.3 upgrade. And so it did.

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    tzsm98 | # 28 | 2010-11-15, 16:16 | Report

    Originally Posted by N900@900MHz View Post
    Wow what a reaction! Monday morning???

    The only discussion i want, how many people are really using this uboot option, and how many don't???
    If there are not so many people are using it, than better remove it, and provide it as a separate installer. So people have a choice what they want to use or not.

    and maybe there are some "power users" wich are not so "powered" to know anything from Maemo/linux. There this forum is for to learn from eachother???

    So if youre so a geek, who knows it all, explain to me how i do have to use this uboot option, or how i remove te boot option from my sd card, without loosing my dat on it.
    Put a poll at the top of the thread to gather the data you want.

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    ndi | # 29 | 2010-11-15, 20:45 | Report

    Perhaps a discussion on issues with uboot could be restarted/continued on a less inflamatory thread? It is my opinion this one is shot.

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    RobbieThe1st | # 30 | 2010-11-16, 01:37 | Report

    @lunat:
    Bootmenu-n900 is more of just a loader, It doesn't mess with the kernel.
    As it is, I think my app is just about the only thing that uses it really - Perhaps one ubuntu-on-n900 setup, but that's about it.

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