[Announce] modRana: a flexible GPS navigation system - Page 33 - maemo.org

ikirk | # 321 | 2010-11-17, 16:32 | Report

Originally Posted by MartinK View Post

modRana V0.18-1 has just been released!

Whats new ?[LIST][*]directions and voice navigation are now multilingual

the dsitance anouncements and "you should be near the destination" are in english for now

Thanks for this latest version Martin.

Just wanted to ask though, you mentioned voice navigation on your last post - do we need to install anything else besides modRana to get this functionality working? Thanks.

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白い熊 | # 322 | 2010-11-17, 16:51 | Report

Originally Posted by ikirk View Post

Just wanted to ask though, you mentioned voice navigation on your last post - do we need to install anything else besides modRana to get this functionality working?

No.

espeak is already listed as a depend in modrana, once you've installed modrana, you have voice nav setup.

Try it, it should just work, for ASCII streetnames at least for now...

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Wikiwide | # 323 | 2010-11-17, 22:37 | Report

Originally Posted by eachna View Post

Related to this, a way to *easily* chose start and end points (either for routes or POI) from your Contacts list addresses would be awesome. Something simpler than typing the address in by hand, which again necessitates pulling the car over when it may not be safe/convenient. I'm borrowing this from Android's Google Nav, which is the service I've been using. It doesn't seem like all that big a deal until you start to use it and it seeps into your GPS-expectation-subconscious

.

It's also a feature in Sygic 10, if I'm not mistaken.
Maybe, just add Category "Contacts" to POI and refresh the list each time it is opened?

Originally Posted by eachna View Post

Awesome software, hope you'll consider the suggestions, off to click the paypal support link!

Users of ModRana should thank you for it. Thank you!

gnasgame3 | # 324 | 2010-11-18, 03:26 | Report

Originally Posted by 白い熊 View Post

No.

espeak is already listed as a depend in modrana, once you've installed modrana, you have voice nav setup.

Try it, it should just work, for ASCII streetnames at least for now...

you have been very helpfull, yr guild on chinese input emacs really help. what about a guild on modrana regarding predownloaded maps. where to store ...where to download from ..convertion ?? if any. etc

thank you

Wikiwide | # 325 | 2010-11-18, 03:55 | Report

Quick reply...

Originally Posted by gnasgame3 View Post

what about a guild on modrana regarding predownloaded maps. where to store ...where to download from ..

Some explanation...

http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...&postcount=126

http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...1&postcount=69

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gnasgame3 | # 326 | 2010-11-18, 18:32 | Report

can any one help.
how do i make the "center of map " "on" a default setting
instead of everytime modrana revert back to center of map off

thanks

Pigro | # 327 | 2010-11-18, 19:42 | Report

I'm afraid it's like that by design - every time you touch the screen, the setting reverts to 'off'. I initially found it irritating too - and I'd still prefer it 'on' at all times by default when navigation is active, with the existing button able to toggle manually with any change persistant - however, you do get used to the crrent operation fairly quickly. I Just got used to the extra tap to turn it back on after any menu interaction.

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gnasgame3 | # 328 | 2010-11-18, 20:02 | Report

Originally Posted by Pigro View Post

I'm afraid it's like that by design - every time you touch the screen, the setting reverts to 'off'. I initially found it irritating too - and I'd still prefer it 'on' at all times by default when navigation is active, with the existing button able to toggle manually with any change persistant - however, you do get used to the crrent operation fairly quickly. I Just got used to the extra tap to turn it back on after any menu interaction.

you need eleven taps to get in to "on"
correct me if i am wrong
menu---options---view----down arrows four taps----centre map --
back arrow three taps

its really a big hassle

Wikiwide | # 329 | 2010-11-18, 22:20 | Report

Originally Posted by gnasgame3 View Post

you need eleven taps to get in to "on"
correct me if i am wrong
menu---options---view----down arrows four taps----centre map --
back arrow three taps

its really a big hassle

One tap: on the blue square-circle with red dot. It's one of the widgets on the screen, it both shows whether centering is enabled and serves to toggle this setting.

The widget is present in all modes: train, car, bus, bicycle, walk.

Originally Posted by Pigro View Post

I Just got used to the extra tap to turn it back on after any menu interaction.

Turning off centering when touching a button is a bug.
Somewhen it will be fixed.

Originally Posted by MartinK View Post

Well, that's a bug and will be fixed. Only dragging the map should disable centring, not clicking/pressing buttons.

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MartinK | # 330 | 2010-11-19, 00:24 | Report

Originally Posted by janszoon View Post

I'll give it some thought.....started to put something together......might be some 'nice to haves' but I think the basics deliver a lot already..

But in the maybe pile:

Speed indicator (knots)
Moon phase (info screen or search)
Tides (info screen or search)
Weather (info screen or search)
Distance (point to point)

OK, everything ticketed

Originally Posted by janszoon View Post

[*]'Spot x' button takes you immediately to new POI based on GPS location (Rather than Menu >> POI >> New >> Based on position. A one click POI :-)

I've been thinking about adding a 'go to' button to the main menu, which would basically do this/other things like:

go to->coordinates->enter coordinates
go to->POI->select poi

etc.
+ clickable "go to" widget.

Originally Posted by janszoon View Post

[*]POI alert/sound (as hands might be other things, an alarm of approaching POI or eSPeak ;-) eg POI near Fishing spot 1[/LIST]

Originally Posted by Pigro View Post

As RR is really just a collection of POI's with a proximity algorithm and an interface to alert the user when he gets within 'x' Km's of any individual POI, I wondered whether it would be possible to build this into a future modRana release?

It would be nice to have a prominent icon displayed on screen and/or an espeak prompt warning of any speed cam's on the upcoming stretch of road. Would take modRana one step closer to emulating a dedicated in-car navigation system. Thoughts?

There is already a ticket for this:

Code:

 * activate from POI -> tools menu
 * set:
  * distance
  * espeak message (recorded sound ?)
  * repetition -> once/twice/every N seconds while in perimeter
  * optional -> a message for leaving the perimeter
  * optinal -> say the current distance as part of the message
 * multiple distance/message pairs for a POI

 * possible uses:
  * speed cameras
  * fishing spots
  * reminders ("you are near the supermarket, don't forget to buy X")
  * geocaching/treasure hunting

Any ideas what else it should do ?

The GUI mockup looks good!

BTW, is there some marine related reason for all the white color ?

Originally Posted by 白い熊 View Post

This is great, however please note that the language of streetnames can vary from the directions language. You're probably aware of it, but for instance in the Moscow case, I'd not want the instructions in Russian, and might prefer them in English, but the streetnames are in Russian, so should be pronounced in Russian...

This is a known issue (Czech street names pronounced with English pronunciation sound silly, trust me

), the driving directions that are provided by Google are just html formated strings and the street names are not delimited in any (parsable) way. But it might be possible to do the future, with some other routing service that provides more granular directions, preferably with street names that have language codes

Originally Posted by jkq View Post

Check out the Device State section of the wiki and osso_test_device_blank_pause.py for a way to keep the screen on.

Thanks for the pointer! Should be quite simple to integrate

Originally Posted by jkq View Post

On an unrelated note, I'm anxiously awaiting an offline routing mode.

-jkq

Well, Woody is currently cooking a on-device tileserver, so I would say that things are moving in the right direction

Originally Posted by handaxe View Post

Something that free hiking and boating have in common besides the above needs is "free navigation" ie. not constrained by road or other vectors, simply a heading / distance display from current position to a POI (also known in most handheld GPS receivers as a waypoint). A question in another thread brought the fact that the n900 really has no hiking GPS app ala a garmin or some such handheld.

PS Apparently Advanced Geocaching Tool has direction and distance.

I can see a few ways of representing this:

big fullscreen arrow and distance (like in AGTL)
a widget version with small arrow and distance, placeable on the map screen (I really have to finally rewamp the widgets to a usable state )
an arrow pointing from the current position indicator (TangoGPS does it like this)
just drawing a long line from current position to a given point
or maybe drawing your own route on the map (might be also useful to send to others) ?

Originally Posted by janszoon View Post

Cool thanks. I like the Mappero approach which controls screen blank via a number of states and conditions. eg unblank screen if:
Full screen and moving
Moving
Receiving GPS data
never
Always
cheers

OK, I guess I can also do this like this once the basic screen blanking control is in place

Originally Posted by Pigro View Post

I installed roadrunner (speed camera proximity detector) and tried to run it alongside modRana yesterday. They didn't appear to coexist well - both apps remained running but modRana wasn't redrawing the map with current location. I didn't have time to check closely but I suspect RR possibly wasn't updating GPS co-ord's correctly either.

I had assumed that multiple app's would be able to concurrently access the GPS without interfering - apparently not, unless I did something wrong during the test.

This is indeed strange as both modRana and RR (most probably, did't look to the RR source yet) use Liblocation, which should is provided especially to enable concurrent GPS access.
What was the position indicator in modRana doing ? Stuck in place or rotating or something else ?

Originally Posted by woody14619 View Post

So your'e saying you need testers?

Basically, yes

For start, some samples of the actual SMS Google is sending would suffice + a check if they all come from some special number

But once I have something that might work, a US based tester would be needed

Originally Posted by woody14619 View Post

I have scripts for pulling the Cloudmade stuff already for postgres. I'm sure I can adapt it.

Any chance the same dataset could be also used for routing (in the future) ? Like for example, by pgRouting, that claims to provide routing for postgres ?

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