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2007-10-28
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#32
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Originally Posted by rs-px
I think that this would be the EEE 1001 which had a 10" display in a slightly larger case. Apparently ASUS withdrew this model as it would eat into their lappy sales.
You can also buy a model with a higher resolution display that is larger and fills-out more of the bezel. Something like 1280x800 resolution, IIRC. It's only the base model that comes with the mini screen.
Whatever, the next couple of years in this market are going to be interesting.
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2007-10-28
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#33
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Originally Posted by maxinflixion
Impractical in what way?
It's so tiny!
That picture also shows how impractical it can be running a full OS on such a small screen.
The Tablet OS is made for a small screen.
Apart from having a menu bar instead of a drop-down and skinny scroll bars why is Hildon such an improvement?
What it does mean is that the source for every application running under Hildon has to be modified. The result is that we have relatively few FOSS apps available for the n8xx. At least on the EEE you can run Open Office even if you lose some real-estate to a menu bar and big scroll-bars. Users will not have to offer a bounty to get an office suite on the EEE.
I don't understand why these things (the menu bar and scroll bars) cannot be 'auto-Hildonised' by the window manager without having to modify the source of the underlying applications. I think that Hildon should be a theme, not a new completely new UI.
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2007-10-28
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#34
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Originally Posted by dont
That's because you don't understand what goes into ITOS to make it run quickly and conserve battery life on the small hardware of the tablets.
Impractical in what way?
I think that Hildon should be a theme, not a new completely new UI.
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2007-10-28
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#35
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Originally Posted by ArnimS
They make a ITOS that runs quickly??
That's because you don't understand what goes into ITOS to make it run quickly and conserve battery life on the small hardware of the tablets.
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2007-10-28
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#36
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Originally Posted by ArnimS
I do. And I still think the additional overhead of Nokia maintaining a Gtk+ fork to auto-Hildonise menus etc. is a better investment in the platform than many more developers maintaining forked versions of their software. 1 < n.
That's because you don't understand what goes into ITOS to make it run quickly and conserve battery life on the small hardware of the tablets.
Yes, thought needs to be given at the high-resolution, small-size screen that we've got; but things like the menu positioning and window border would be much better implemented in Hildon, rather than exposed as Hildon-specific Gtk+ widgets.
The patches could even be submitted upstream: Gtk+ could allow for a MenuFactory for a window(s) which would control how the menubar appears; by default, it'd put it in the window. Hildon's plugin would put it hidden off the top of the screen. The Mac OS X-style hacks would put it on the top of the screen. A RISC OS-style plugin would put it on a popup based off a window click.
Applications would still require a recompile, battery-level optimisations and UxD, but the barrier to entry to getting an integrated application would be that much lower.
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2007-10-28
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#37
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Originally Posted by aflegg
Thanks for confirming this.
I do. And I still think the additional overhead of Nokia maintaining a Gtk+ fork to auto-Hildonise menus etc. is a better investment in the platform than many more developers maintaining forked versions of their software. 1 < n.
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Applications would still require a recompile, battery-level optimisations and UxD, but the barrier to entry to getting an integrated application would be that much lower.
What kind of battery-level optimizations do Hildon app.s typically make?
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2007-10-28
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#38
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- Make sure you stop updating the screen when you're not in the foreground, or the screen is dimmed
- Save state when receiving "shutdown due to power loss" DBUS messages.
- Don't send packets to the network when idle, as this keeps the radios on/prevents the timeouts kicking in.
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Much more listed in the developers' documentation at maemo.org.
Just as important to the end-user is rethinking interfaces to fit on such a small screen with high pixel density; an emphasis on finger control rather than stylus, for example.
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2007-10-28
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#39
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If this mini eee pc had a citrix client, it would be great for an overnight (or maybe more) business trip.
I continue to think that Nokia should be paying Citrix to make a client for the n8*0 tablet.
I continue to think that Nokia should be paying Citrix to make a client for the n8*0 tablet.
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2007-10-29
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#40
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Originally Posted by dont
And I don't see why a small tablet should be burdened with a desktop OS. In fact, I'm with those thinking Hildon should go even farther toward being unique.
I don't understand why these things (the menu bar and scroll bars) cannot be 'auto-Hildonised' by the window manager without having to modify the source of the underlying applications. I think that Hildon should be a theme, not a new completely new UI.
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