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    Why N900 failed on consumer market ?

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    lanwellon | # 1 | 2010-11-23, 08:26 | Report

    Just wondering the reason.

    N900 (Maemo 5) had great UI.

    Not worse than iPhone/Android, IMO.

    So, why the sales data looks so disappointing...



    Just because Maemo 5 is not a phone OS and the consumer cannot accept such a big progress ?

    I can only see this reason.

    Because both iOS and Android are phone OS,
    And, MeeGo, what Nokia is working hard on, is also going to be a phone OS, so my conclusion is phone OS with great UI and many good Apps will succeed.

    Symbian is not that successful because the UI of Symbian is far more old-fashioned comparing to iOS/Android.

    Is that right ?

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    lanwellon | # 2 | 2010-11-23, 08:32 | Report

    And,

    Symbian^3 cannot provide great UI because of the limitation of the system.

    But MeeGo can do this.

    if MeeGo is going to be a Phone OS for N9,

    then it is trying to imitate iOS/Android.

    iOS/Android is 3 years ahead,

    If MeeGo is just a duplication of Android, and 3 years behind,

    I can barely see the chance that Nokia will finally win the market back.

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    lanwellon | # 3 | 2010-11-23, 08:37 | Report

    I am always thinking that Android/iOS is one step ahead Symbian,

    and Maemo is one step ahead iOS/Android (thus, Maemo is 2 steps ahead Symbian).

    Most consumers can only accept the one step ahead, not 2 steps.

    Maybe they will accept Maemo 5 several years later, but not now.

    (Just like Microsoft Vista, people do not accept at first, but they can accept Windows 7 several years later)

    So what Nokia is doing now is just one step backward, and trying to do what Apple and Google did 3 years ago.

    Is it right ?

    I think Nokia should optimize the Maemo 5 and wait the customer to accept this ''2 steps ahead'', not trying to copy Android / iPhone.

    Anyone has the same idea ?

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    jerryfreak | # 4 | 2010-11-23, 08:42 | Report

    who said it failed? its a geek toy and was never intended for the masses.

    ps, you will go insane if you keep talking to yourself

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    lanwellon | # 5 | 2010-11-23, 08:50 | Report

    Originally Posted by jerryfreak View Post
    who said it failed? its a geek toy and was never intended for the masses.

    ps, you will go insane if you keep talking to yourself
    just separated my thread into 3 ... LOL

    You mean N900 did not get a good sales number just because NOKIA did not want to ?

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    lma | # 6 | 2010-11-23, 08:51 | Report

    Originally Posted by lanwellon View Post
    So, why the sales data looks so disappointing...
    What sales data?

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    toxaris | # 7 | 2010-11-23, 08:51 | Report

    On of the biggest reasons why some potential geeks didnt buy N900 was the lack of applications.
    So the biggest reason to buy N900 back then was the hardware that was way ahead of all Androids and compairable with Iphone 3GS.
    But if you didnt have need for a desent camera, 32gb and FM transmitter then there was no reason to buy N900, due to the unknown future for N900.
    And as to day, we can see that the application explosion didnt happen for N900 as it did for Android.
    N900 is still a geek phone, and it the geekphone above all. I like it!

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    jedi | # 8 | 2010-11-23, 08:52 | Report

    Personally, I don't give a monkeys if it's "failed in the consumer market" or not.

    I've got a great phone/mobile computer and a great community here, so what's the problem?

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    IzzehO | # 9 | 2010-11-23, 09:00 | Report

    Originally Posted by jedi View Post
    Personally, I don't give a monkeys if it's "failed in the consumer market" or not.

    I've got a great phone/mobile computer and a great community here, so what's the problem?
    The problem is if it wasn't a success, they'll try and change it for the next time round and screw it up Can you imagine the next step being an onscreen keyboard, no FM transmitter, capacitive screen and all about form factor like the crappy N8?

    I can't and refuse to =/

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    geneven | # 10 | 2010-11-23, 09:01 | Report

    I'm not a phone expert.

    When did Nokia successfully market a high-end, premium-priced cult phone?

    I think they don't know how to do it.

    Nokia abandoned the tablet/reader market just as it was getting hot.

    What if they had released something like the iPad before Apple? Then, after the iPad, released NTablet Two?

    I think they would have had a significant success.

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