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phi | # 41 | 2007-10-29, 18:41 | Report
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Originally Posted by Zoso View Post
You read the original Slashdot story about the iPod? Though particularly funny with hindsight, it maybe wasn't quite so far off the mark based on the first generation unit. And the iPhone, and thus iPod Touch, are the first generation of Apple touchscreen/tablet/PDA-type things (though success won't inevitably follow, see also "Newton").
I love how its entered in the Wikipedia Entry


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Malda is also infamous for his dismissive description of Apple Computer's then newly introduced iPod: "No wireless. Less space than a nomad. Lame."[1] This quote has often been used to illustrate the gulf between Slashdot's "techno-elite" and ordinary computer users.
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Wizard69 | # 42 | 2007-10-30, 04:47 | Report
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Originally Posted by benny1967 View Post
This is a very interesting one - it reminds me of something a Nokia representative (probably Ari Jaaksi, but I could be wrong) said when they launched the 770: that the very reason for this product line is to create a new kind of device, a whole new market. Something thats not a media player, not a PDA, not a phone, simply not something we already know but the first of its kind.
All I'm simply saying is that the single purpose Internet Tablet has a dim future because people will choose to carry a Cell Phone or a Music player around with them before they will choose a Internet Tablet. Better yet they will combine a Media player with a cell phone. Those two things right there will keep a device in somebodies pocket.

Now throw in internet access and the device becomes even more attractive. Take the same device and remove the Cell and music player and you have a mass sales problem.

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Thinking of it, it makes sense that Nokia tries so hard to avoid anything that could possibly put the tablets in one of the existing categories in public perception:
Yes and I wonder why?

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• They dont want it to be a PDA, so they dont offer even basic PIM-functionality (even though Nokia has this kind of software)
  
• Even Apple got this half right on their beta hardware. Beta because I don't believe that the Touch nor the iPhone are even half done at the moment. The killer here is that this product is open source, seems like they could have found something to support or port that would have done them nicely.
  
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• They dont want it to be a media player, so they dont offer high capacity storage (even though it would be possible with only minor changes to the design)
This is where I think they really hurt themselves with the N810. It seems like a simple concept too. Then the added GPS which takes even more of that storage space.

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They dont want it to be a phone, so no SIM-card.
I can see them getting by for a while without Cell access.

Well I was thinking more along the line of well known or accepted uses. People have been listening to music for centuries, a MP3 player is just a better way to carry that music with you. Same thing for communications, we could still use smoke signals to contact friends and family but a cell is far more reliable. These two things people are willing to pay for, frankly through the nose, to have available constantly on their person. So the question is does the mass market see such a need for a internet only tablet. I don't think so.
The N810 puzzles me to no end. It is almost like a response to systems that where not selling well. A shotgun approach to seeing what sticks well.
I've been a long time Linux user, but to be perfectly honest Apples latest effort intrigues me. Especially because they have really spent some time on the low level out of the way UNIX stuff. Combined that with a really well developed higher level user interface and you get the best of both worlds. Now if they could only go about building hardware that I'd like to run such an OS on!

In any event i starting to think that you are missing the whole point of a high level Windows manager type interface. Gnome, KDE or Apples Mac, are the same in that the idea is to expose the common to the user in an easy graphical environment. None of these systems demand that you stay out of the entrails. That isn't their point at all.

Dave