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2007-10-30 , 14:45
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well, he mentioned in the candid video that it will ship with msn support. not sure if he was referring to jaber or pidgin.
 
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2007-10-30 , 15:18
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Must be Jabber.
 
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2007-10-30 , 15:28
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Again, no Pidgin (currently) shipping installed, so Thoughtfix had to be referring to jabber.

Note however that even though it's missing the user-friendly .install package, Pidgin installs easily onto the N810 once the proper repositories are setup and so far it's working very well for me with the sametime protocol. I have not yet tried others such as MSN.
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2007-10-30 , 15:40
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ok, so I guess it will be jabber. cool. as long as msn support is packaged with jabber upon release, I'm happy. I'd like to install (or at least try to install) pidgin.
 
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2007-10-30 , 16:20
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ok, so I guess it will be jabber. cool. as long as msn support is packaged with jabber upon release, I'm happy. I'd like to install (or at least try to install) pidgin.
That's not how Jabber works. You have to use a server which includes an MSN gateway. The client doesn't need to change (or even know what MSN is). The server has to have the gateways you want installed.

You can find plenty of public Jabber servers (or run your own if you have an FQDN) with a google search for "public Jabber servers". You'll have to set up the gateways on your PC first before they'll work on the tablet though (as the tablet Jabber client has no service browser/discovery).

Kingka, you've just inspired me.
 
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2007-10-30 , 16:28
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For me, jabber is more difficult to deal with than Pidgin. I got tired of checking servers to see which one supported what protocol.

Once it's installed, with minor configuration required, Pidgin just works. The new configuration wizards make it even nicer.
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2007-10-30 , 17:25
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yea, i'm a total noob with all this as you can see. sad innit. but if I set up the gateways on my PC I'm assuming my comp needs to be on all the time....

I'll try my luck with pidgin. i'll have to check the noob forum, hopefully there's a step by step.
 
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2007-10-30 , 17:29
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Originally Posted by kingka View Post
yea, i'm a total noob with all this as you can see. sad innit. but if I set up the gateways on my PC I'm assuming my comp needs to be on all the time....

I'll try my luck with pidgin. i'll have to check the noob forum, hopefully there's a step by step.
Unless you have a domain name pointed to your PC, you can't run a Jabber server on it.
 
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2007-10-30 , 17:31
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Originally Posted by Texrat View Post
For me, jabber is more difficult to deal with than Pidgin. I got tired of checking servers to see which one supported what protocol.

Once it's installed, with minor configuration required, Pidgin just works. The new configuration wizards make it even nicer.
I did a 5 minute check a year ago. Never had to touch it since.. but I can understand that it's more painful... but it's worth it to not have to install or run Pidgin and instead use the internal IM client.

Something else I'll have to add then.

Your concern about trying to find a server with the protocols you'll need is part of the reason why I'm interested in running a Jabber server available to the tablet community. No guesswork... all the gateways always up, always working and you know where to go.
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2007-10-30 , 18:01
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I'm interested in running a Jabber server available to the tablet community. No guesswork... all the gateways always up, always working and you know where to go.
That would be awesome, since about a year ago I tried the AIM over jabber thing and never could get a server working right. It would rock to have one that 'we' controled and used. But since I don't use jabber, Pidgin is awesome. I would love a way to replace the native chat with pidgin, then I would not be wasting the contacts menu.
 
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