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2007-11-07 , 19:32
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Biggmo, what specific problem are you having? Downloading from the internet is kinda vague
 
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2007-11-07 , 19:37
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We all do, and they can be very different.

I got the N800 because it ran Linux, too, though. I know how to run XP, and I have a copy on one of my computers for games, but I prefer Linux.
 
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2007-11-07 , 19:47
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I would have considered a device that ran FreeBSD, NetBSD, or OpenBSD. I figured the embedded GUI wouldn't be as annoying as most Linux X based GUI's (and didn't expect it to be a customized version of X), so I didn't rule out Linux devices (esp. since *BSD based handhelds are rather rare). I briefly considered Symbian and Danger (sidekick) based devices. But, I completely ruled out Palm and Windows.

I basically came down to OSX vs Linux (iPhone/Touch vs N800 or PepperPad). And I correctly anticipated the mid-september massacre for OSX based devices. Decided I wanted an N800 over the PepperPad. That's how I wound up here. Haven't regretted it at all.
 
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2007-11-07 , 20:00
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Hey JeffElkins!!
Haha everyone knows him self
anyhow, sometimes i download things of the net that says it can be run in the linux OS, i download them and it says its completed after that i got to my documents to check them and it can be open it says programme faild or something like that not sure..

sometimes from the application manager as well dont know wats the problem but trying to figure it out, but do u have any ideas??
 
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2007-11-07 , 20:31
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Originally Posted by BIGGMO View Post
Hey JeffElkins!!
Haha everyone knows him self
anyhow, sometimes i download things of the net that says it can be run in the linux OS, i download them and it says its completed after that i got to my documents to check them and it can be open it says programme faild or something like that not sure..

sometimes from the application manager as well dont know wats the problem but trying to figure it out, but do u have any ideas??
Well, as far as downloading stuff for linux, anything you d/l to use on the NIT has to be specially compiled for that platform. Something meant to run on the pc (x86) platform won't work on the Nokia. That's why we have repositories, that only include apps for our architecture.

Additionally, sometimes when you download software for linux, it may not be marked as executable...in other words linux may not recognize it as a runnable program. In that case you have to perform a chmod on the file : chmod +x "program" -- it can be very confusing for a linux newbie (and I hope I'm not making it worse <g>) Generally, if you stick with programs that the Application Manager offers, you won't have this problem.

I don't think the NIT is ideal for learning Linux. Your best bet would be to get a Live CD like Knoppix or Ubuntu that allows you to boot into Linux from your PC w/o disrupting your normal Windows environment.
 
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2007-11-07 , 20:35
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Imho the real question is the user interface. XP application UI's are optimized for desktop usage: large screen, keyboard, mouse, high performance available. Putting these into a small screen, no mouse, lower performance device simply won't give a good user experience, since that is not what the UI's were optimized for. I don't really see that it would make any difference even if technically the tablet could run windows xp. The UI is the key.
 
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2007-11-07 , 20:36
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Originally Posted by johnkzin View Post
If it had been windows (mobile, or xp, or vista), I wouldn't have bought my N800.
Agreed. I had the option of buying a Windows equipped Smartphone a while ago and I realised that I just don't trust Microsoft products. Microsoft's very good at packing in useful functions but, let's be honest, any Microsoft product is likely insecure and just too much trouble.
 
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2007-11-07 , 20:50
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For me, the fact that it runs Linux was the clincher. I have several windows based smart phones and have owned several pda's (running various Os's). Smart phones are a great idea, but I have yet to find one that I really like. (the iphone has come the closest) . The best pda I had owned was the Zaurus. That ran Linux and the wealth of apps that met my needs was nice. I left the windows world in my personal life behind when OSX was released and haven't looked back. I have no issues with carrying my IT as well as a phone. Except for some odd lag using the browser since the last firmware. I am loviing it. Can't wait for the 810 so I don't have to carry a bt gps. Finally I can use the IT on my motorcycle!!!
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2007-11-07 , 21:16
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Originally Posted by JeffElkins View Post
Well, as far as downloading stuff for linux, anything you d/l to use on the NIT has to be specially compiled for that platform. Something meant to run on the pc (x86) platform won't work on the Nokia. That's why we have repositories, that only include apps for our architecture.

Additionally, sometimes when you download software for linux, it may not be marked as executable...in other words linux may not recognize it as a runnable program. In that case you have to perform a chmod on the file : chmod +x "program" -- it can be very confusing for a linux newbie (and I hope I'm not making it worse <g>) Generally, if you stick with programs that the Application Manager offers, you won't have this problem.

I don't think the NIT is ideal for learning Linux. Your best bet would be to get a Live CD like Knoppix or Ubuntu that allows you to boot into Linux from your PC w/o disrupting your normal Windows environment.

but u see the programmes in the Application manager some of them that i dont need i dont wanna use so i try to go surf the net looking for something usefull, when i find something it ask me if i wanna download wen i start downloading everything going fine then wen i wanna get back to that file in my documents i click on it and its says NOT COMPLETED OR FAILD U KNOW SOMETHINGS LIKE THAT??
so wat u thing i sould do ??
wats the best thing u think i should do since u have a good experince??
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2007-11-07 , 21:50
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Originally Posted by BIGGMO View Post
so wat u thing i sould do ??
wats the best thing u think i should do since u have a good experince??
As I said, in your case, I'd stick with trusted apps in the repositories and check out learning more about Linux.
 
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