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2011-02-12 , 15:13
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Originally Posted by qgil View Post
As a software freedom lover (just like many of you) and as a professional with a full time job in this field (thanks for reminding this little detail) I still ask myself what is the best work to do there. Sure, Qt and MeeGo had a chance to be at the edge of the Nokia strategy on high-end devices and this plan has changed now. But considering the size, the sophistication and the potential of innovation in the activities out of the scope of the Microsoft deal, I have no hurry to write off any of the technologies or the people I'm working with today. Any of these activities might bring a big and deep contribution to the free software community, which at the end is the main motivation of my work.
Unfortunately the hill Google and Apple have built is steep now and getting steeper. If Nokia is going to flounder around with (apparently) nothing for the next 2 years, well, I don't think that's a hole MeeGo is going to be able to dig itself out of. It's bad enough today, it aint getting better.

Despite the optimism, I don't think anybody is particularly interested in wasting their time with a, as Jaffa puts it, "step 5 of 0".
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I didn't post here to argue or to try to convince someone. I just explained what I honestly think, after being asked.
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#53
It is honestly great to see people I respect emerge and comment after all the tumult. I respect your comments, I appreciate them and I've been waiting for them.
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The thing is, Quim, although your own passions are pure, you've always been the apologist for the corporate behemoth, never prepared to risk your neck and your job to do what Maemo/Meego needed for success within the stifling bureaucratic "play-it-safe" environment that Nokia seems to represent.

Of course you're perfectly entitled to do that, and I don't criticize you for it in any way.

But maybe the outcome would have been different if you'd said to your manager "Stuff you, I'm going to embrace our Maemo developers" instead of saying to us "Well, you know, for corporate reasons we are constrained to work in these disfunctional ways".
 

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Originally Posted by ivgalvez View Post
Indeed, Qt is a big competitor to MS ecosystem.
Good point. Microsoft may even be more interested in killing Qt than in growing WP7.
 

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Originally Posted by XxJacobxX View Post
Oh, can somebody add as* on the tags?
LoL well spotted.
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#57
Everything you state and talk about seems to always get pulled from under you and you probably feel totally useless, well we can only but wait and see as per usual.

On the other hand would be nice for at least one of your predictions to come true.
 
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Originally Posted by eiffel View Post
The thing is, Quim, although your own passions are pure, you've always been the apologist for the corporate behemoth, never prepared to risk your neck and your job to do what Maemo/Meego needed for success within the stifling bureaucratic "play-it-safe" environment that Nokia seems to represent.
That is maybe the most inconsiderate and selfish thing I've heard from any human being in a long while. Screw you wanting your Maemo/MeeGo perfect even with the cost of another person's job. Who the hell do you think you are?

Originally Posted by eiffel View Post
Of course you're perfectly entitled to do that, and I don't criticize you for it in any way.
You just did!

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But maybe the outcome would have been different if you'd said to your manager "Stuff you, I'm going to embrace our Maemo developers" instead of saying to us "Well, you know, for corporate reasons we are constrained to work in these disfunctional ways".
You're clueless of his motives, plus you're a jerk.
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With Harmatten on the horizon, most who were paying attention knew that the N900 was going to be a dead end of sorts before we bought it. That being said, I have no regrets in buying it. It is still very useful for my purposes.
exactly. incompatibility between fremantle and harmattan was already known before N900 was released. (drm chip + capacitive screen with multitouch)
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Originally Posted by eiffel View Post
Good point. Microsoft may even be more interested in killing Qt than in growing WP7.
At this point growing WP7 by significant percentage ought to be easy: it seems the platform hasn't sold many more units than Maemo
 

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