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2011-02-15
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You give them both way too much credit.
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2011-02-15
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Originally Posted by tkatchev
I don't think they need stellar sales since they're cutting R&D and head count. I'm sure Nokia would be happy if they settled to around 20% market share and moved up from there. Personally I think removing MeeGo and Symbian out of the picture will let Nokia do what it does best and that's focus on hardware and integration.
Nonsense.
Microsoft doesn't really care whether WinPhone succeeds or not. If they want, they can subsidize their mobile division for the next decade, without ever turning a profit.
Nokia, on the other hand, is finished if WinPhone doesn't have stellar sales. (And it won't have stellar sales, you'd have to be a special kind of idiot to believe that WinPhone has any chance at success.)
There are a lot of people that could care less what OS their phone has as long as it does what they want it to do when they buy it - Symbian/MeeGo/iOS/Android/WP7 doesn't matter if it works. The name of the game right now is integration (buss word ecosystem).
From the 770, N8XX, to the N900 Nokia got the hardware right they just couldn't close the deal on the software. If the N900 would have come with a capacitive touch screen and Nokia moved people from Maemo 5 to 6 using the N900 Nokia could have probably stayed on the Maemo/MeeGo path. But instead the N900 was still born, OVI store was always beta and now the ship has sailed.
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2011-02-15
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It would be nice if the shareholders said to elop what bud fox said to daryl hannah..."get the fck out".
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2011-02-15
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Originally Posted by extendedping
With Nokia, the largest shareholders controlling the company is not public knowledge. "no one" knows who they are.
It would be nice if the shareholders said to elop what bud fox said to daryl hannah..."get the fck out".
But, it was the other way around. The shareholders said to Elop - give us WP and you will be remembered as the man who saved Nokia.
This is bad for MeeGo and Symbian, but good for Nokia in the long run. They have to succeed with WP of course, but by the looks of it now, they have to do some really stupid things not to.
Nokia can focus on making phones and services and on S40.
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2011-02-15
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Originally Posted by tkatchev
The number one goal for any company is to make money. Saying that M$ doesn't care about the success of WP7 is just plain ignorant.
Nonsense.
Microsoft doesn't really care whether WinPhone succeeds or not. If they want, they can subsidize their mobile division for the next decade, without ever turning a profit.
Nokia, on the other hand, is finished if WinPhone doesn't have stellar sales. (And it won't have stellar sales, you'd have to be a special kind of idiot to believe that WinPhone has any chance at success.)
Agreed that Nokia will be in big trouble if WP7 fails. But to blindly dismiss WP7's chance of success - particularly with heavyweights like Nokia, HTC, and M$ behind it - takes a "special kind of idiot" as you so eloquently put it.
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2011-02-15
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i bet microsoft knows how shitty their OS is so they sent someone to nokia to promote it. after nokia will go down the river, microsoft will buy nokia. thats it. what a ****
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2011-02-15
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oh bollocks there's nothing wrong with the Windows Phone OS. Just lacking features like the Maemo was when it first came out. So will people stop the ****ing bashing. I can't go one thread without seeing this **** all over the place. Microsoft won't fail, and why are people blaming them? it's Nokia's fault for abandoning Meego.
Microsoft (and Intel) is feeling the heat that mobile space is the definite future; how it's the sizeable and only growth path out of the current stagnating (and commoditized) desktop/server space.
You have to be kinda special too to ignore Microsoft's 'ability' to open up market by their sheer size and might.
Imagine Microsoft as a big, ugly but rich bully. If they can't get proper dates by their own looks and charm, they're paying someone to get it for them (current stage with Nokia).
Guess what's coming up next, if they can't buy what they want from a prostitute.
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