The future of your Nokia Windows phone - Page 6 - maemo.org

ysss | # 51 | 2011-02-24, 11:54 | Report

Originally Posted by deyons View Post

@cfh11
You seem to be lost, not to worry heres a link to the forum you belong too: LINK

Any how, I'm very sad to see you men not doing your jobs!
I'm doing mine!

You must be popular with the ladies...

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Copernicus | # 52 | 2011-02-24, 12:08 | Report

Originally Posted by dmberta View Post

Also, most people in my experience aren't willing to learn the nuances of more than one or two operating systems. For them Windows was hard enough, mac on top of that make two, why would they bother with Linux?

Just as an aside, Macintosh computers run OS X (a unix-based operating system, just like Linux). So many many people have been learning the nuances of Unix. And personally, I would say OS X is much easier to learn than Windows is...

ndi | # 53 | 2011-02-24, 12:43 | Report

Originally Posted by Copernicus View Post

Just as an aside, Macintosh computers run OS X (a unix-based operating system, just like Linux). So many many people have been learning the nuances of Unix. And personally, I would say OS X is much easier to learn than Windows is...

Technically correct, but false in real life. iOS has no CLI, the defining feature of UNIX, is not wide open, and has no OS contact with the user. They are entirely in the UI.

As I said before, if someone ports the iOS UI and runs it over WP7 (not on Samsung, apparently), none would be the wiser.

So, even if people actually use Unix on iPhone, e.g., they aren't any more familiar with Maemo or Fedore than a Windows user is. I don't know any iPhone users that have ever used gconftool, patched a bug themselves or edited a config file as a requirement of use.

@dmberta
As for people and choices, you're wasting your breath. I've been in many communities and, while it's undeniable that the id1ot is universal and can live in most environments, like bacteria, some communities are better and some are worse. TMO has reached a point where you find a single real post per page. Depending on your settings.

Conserve your energy.

Last edited by ndi; 2011-02-24 at 13:22.

ysss | # 54 | 2011-02-24, 12:57 | Report

Originally Posted by ndi View Post

Texchnically correct, but false in real life. iOS has no CLI, the defining feature of UNIX, is not wide open, and has no OS contact with the user.

As I said before, if someone ports the iOS UI and runs it over WP7 (not on Samsung, apparently), none would be the wiser.

As for people and choices, you're wasting your breath. I've been in many communities and, while it's undeniable that the id1ot is universal and can live in most environments, like bacteria, some communities are better and some are worse. TMO has reached a point where you find a single real post per page. Depending on your settings.

Conserve your energy.

read again what he said...

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ndi | # 55 | 2011-02-24, 13:15 | Report

Originally Posted by ysss View Post

read again what he said...

It was supposed to be a two part reply and network failed before I realized I didn't separate my replies. Editing.

Frappacino | # 56 | 2011-02-24, 13:21 | Report

Originally Posted by ndi View Post

As for people and choices, you're wasting your breath. I've been in many communities and, while it's undeniable that the id1ot is universal and can live in most environments, like bacteria, some communities are better and some are worse. TMO has reached a point where you find a single real post per page. Depending on your settings.

Conserve your energy.

A single real post per page ? really ?

Here is a hint - stop reading the idiot useless no aim debating threads like these and stick to the technical app/dev/bug related threads

If you read a dumb thread you get dumb relies - no **** sherlock

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ndi | # 57 | 2011-02-24, 13:34 | Report

Originally Posted by Frappacino View Post

A single real post per page ? really ?

Here is a hint - stop reading the idiot useless no aim debating threads like these and stick to the technical app/dev/bug related threads

If you read a dumb thread you get dumb relies - no **** sherlock

Agreed, some threads are truely clean, but the context was dmberta's reply (edited to correct the error, my bad), and thus my estimate was to this kind of threads.

So, yes, there are corners where it makes sense. And then there is the thread-that-tries-to-discuss-alternatives. Sooner or later (rather sooner) all threads that involve Microsoft, Windows, iOS, OSX, competition in general get run into the ground within the first page no matter what the settings are.

And it's not going to go away, either, MS is here to stay. I am aware that introducing Windows to a Linux forum is bound to create friction, but we're talking re-entry friction here, complete with name calling, blanket insults and questioning sexual orientation. Sheesh.

RFS-81 | # 58 | 2011-02-24, 13:34 | Report

Originally Posted by gerbick View Post

So this makes up for the wonky microUSB, lack of updates, lack of support from Nokia, and people having issues with the PR1.1, PR1.2 and PR1.3 - in very small numbers, mind you - updates for the N900, right?

No. We just want to see *progress*

ysss | # 59 | 2011-02-24, 13:42 | Report

Originally Posted by ndi View Post

It was supposed to be a two part reply and network failed before I realized I didn't separate my replies. Editing.

read what he said again...

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Copernicus | # 60 | 2011-02-24, 13:57 | Report

Originally Posted by ndi View Post

Technically correct, but false in real life. iOS has no CLI, the defining feature of UNIX, is not wide open, and has no OS contact with the user. They are entirely in the UI.

Actually, iOS is not OS X, nor any other flavor of Unix. Although Apple is happily attempting to scale up iOS to tablets (and presumably other devices), I doubt it will have either the flexibility or the longevity of OS X; as more powerful processors become more widespread in small devices, limited operating systems like iOS will lose out as users clamor for true multitasking and full-blown application software (rather than lots and lots of miniscule apps).

Edit: after investigating a bit, I find that I am mistaken -- underneath all the UI cruft, iOS appears to be running some version of the Mach kernel. That makes it a lot closer to the Android model than I thought. It also means that, if Apple should ever find the interest in doing so, they could scale up iOS fairly easily...

Last edited by Copernicus; 2011-02-24 at 14:57. Reason: Apparently, iOS closer to Unix than I thought

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