volt | # 241 | 2011-03-04, 09:09 | Report

Nah, it's more like inspired by MeeGo.

zimon | # 242 | 2011-03-04, 09:26 | Report

It is. Harmattan is based on deb-packages and -database, Meego software, updates, apps comes from rpm-repositories. That is the main reason Linux Foundation and Intel won't let N950 to be called Meego-device, because in fact it is not Meego-device and Meego updates won't be as user-friendly applicable as they should.

Seems like Nokia's Meego-people are not familiar enough with LSB-standard rpm-system, so Harmattan still after one year doesn't have support of this Meego-requirement.

Yet another example where Linux fragmentation is a real problem and consequences can be huge; like Nokia falling in the hands of Microsoft and major open source supporter is lost, MS won this again. I blame Debian and its stubbornness for not changing from deb to rpm-system. It is just an ego thing with deb-people, because rpm-system is undeniably technically better (transactions, embedded GPG-signatures which follow even if you transfer/install software package via usb-stick, ftp, wget, bluetooth-obex). Debian (and Ubuntu) would make a big appreciated favor to Linux-community by making this deb->rpm-change.

Stskeeps | # 243 | 2011-03-04, 09:27 | Report

Are you trying to start WW3?

zimon | # 244 | 2011-03-04, 09:33 | Report

Nope. I let the facts talk, like in science and technology they should. I am ready to discuss (in an another thread) if someone claims transaction support in software package management is not a technical plus or that having widely used GPG-signatures embedded in the package is not in practice better than having them detached.

vivmak | # 245 | 2011-03-04, 10:04 | Report

Usually Fridays are good but today I feeling all negative, dont buy this unless you can get all the features you want have tested yourself whether Nokia or No-nokia

lolloo | # 246 | 2011-03-04, 10:36 | Report

i will buy N950!!! there is nothing other than N950 FOR ME!

keep it up MeeGo dudes!! see u in the other side

volt | # 247 | 2011-03-04, 11:46 | Report

My N900 is five quarters old now, which in phone years means 125 years old. The N950 is by any standards, too late. In this early adaptors market, a phone generation is 12 months at worst, probably more like 6 months, and many Maemo phone owners would be lusting for a replacement since before christmas 2010. Not going to mention the feelings of Maemo tablet owners.

For me personally it seems I will not be able to wait for it, even if I wanted to. My N900 is not doing so well since it took a bath last week. Lost bluetooth and WiFi.

zutesmog | # 248 | 2011-03-04, 12:35 | Report

I seriously doubt the debian choice to not go with rpm is ego related.

When I compare my years of fedora use vs similiar period with ubuntu, all I ever got in fedora/rpm was unresolved dependancies when installing packages. So much so I usually just built everything from source. I cannot say the same for Ubuntu, I can't remember the last time I had a dependancy problem with Ubuntu.

Spyker | # 249 | 2011-03-04, 12:41 | Report

I'm using Fedora since FC3, and the only time I had unresolved dependencies was because of the proprietary nvidia drivers was not yet ready, with a new kernel update.
And that only happens because the proprietary stuff comes from a third party repository.

zimon | # 250 | 2011-03-04, 14:45 | Report

I bet, your experiences were before RpmFusion. I haven't had dependency problems in years with Fedora.

What do you think the reason of the debian's choice is then, if not stubbornness? Ignorance? Rebellioness? Secret co-operation with Microsoft to keep Linux fragmented?