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Even the things which are open source, MAY NOT BE free... So you would better look really carefully or contact Nokia.. Otherwise you may end up in jail...
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2011-03-25
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Originally Posted by AMLJ
Even the things which are open source, MAY NOT BE free... So you would better look really carefully or contact Nokia.. Otherwise you may end up in jail...
I believe, if your definition of open sources is as defined in GPL; and you follow what GPL says; then there is no reason why one would end up in Jail. If your definition of "open" is as defined by MS's (I actually do not recall exactly what MS has called it now); then it would be another story.
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2011-03-25
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Originally Posted by cheve
Well, Open Source is different from Free, and there are many licenses... It's not just GPL...
I believe, if your definition of open sources is as defined in GPL; and you follow what GPL says; then there is no reason why one would end up in Jail. If your definition of "open" is as defined by MS's open sourced initiative(I actually do not recall exactly what MS has called it now); then it would be another story.
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Or they may have their own license... They can say the source is available, but e.g. you can't use it for this n that... etc
But normally it might be GPL.
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2011-03-25
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Originally Posted by davidnjohnson
I guess that you would get a lot of help (as in advices) with the OpenPandora team.http://openpandora.org
Believe it or not those are things I actually have covered. Please continue asking me questions though, I actually appreciate it. I am hoping you will ask a question that I haven't already considered so you will save me the trouble of running into that problem later on.
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2011-03-25
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OP: The simplest way to get things done is to imitate well known designs and products (legally).
Have you checked out Beagleboard?
Meego has been ported to it.
Have you chosen (in your mind) at least one experienced geek who can be the technical foundation of your product? Remember that this person needs to be reliable, trustworthy and experienced in both software and hardware. What about marketing, sales and the person who has contacts or can make them? Do you have any contact with VCs?
Whats your "first step" for the next 6 months? What after that?
What about cash flow? Who's going to Angel fund you to bootstrap your venture? Do you have an alternate source of income?
Is this your first business venture? If not, have you considered typing up with an experienced entrepreneur instead of going all alone?
Have you documented out all these things in your mind, on paper?
In other words, where is your business plan?
There's a lot of work to be done.
Have you checked out Beagleboard?
Meego has been ported to it.
Have you chosen (in your mind) at least one experienced geek who can be the technical foundation of your product? Remember that this person needs to be reliable, trustworthy and experienced in both software and hardware. What about marketing, sales and the person who has contacts or can make them? Do you have any contact with VCs?
Whats your "first step" for the next 6 months? What after that?
What about cash flow? Who's going to Angel fund you to bootstrap your venture? Do you have an alternate source of income?
Is this your first business venture? If not, have you considered typing up with an experienced entrepreneur instead of going all alone?
Have you documented out all these things in your mind, on paper?
In other words, where is your business plan?
There's a lot of work to be done.
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2011-03-25
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Originally Posted by AMLJ
Agree, that's why knowing the license is GPL or not is important, imho. Shouting out that something is open(as in the case of MS) is not necessary 'open' nor 'free'. anyway, we may be somewhat OT
Well, Open Source is different from Free, and there are many licenses... It's not just GPL...
Or they may have their own license... They can say the source is available, but e.g. you can't use it for this n that... etc
But normally it might be GPL.
Cheers,
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2011-03-25
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Originally Posted by davidnjohnson
What you are stating here for anyone to take on such a project would have to have a LOT of financial security and certainly know what "proggy" is short for !.
Hi, I am not sure if this is the proper section to post this question in but here goes:
I am a product developer. I am building a tablet that I will sell on a large scale. I would like to know if I can use this operating system with my tablet.
I would also like to find out how my hardware and this software can best work together.
Thank you for your time,
Hardware manufacturers supply either full spec or device drivers and that is long before the OS is designed.
How can YOU be building a tablet when you have just stated a Chinese company will be making the pcb as you put it.
Any designer just does not pick components because of individual thought, you just cannot mix and match components that you "think" are what you would like to see in a particular design, i wish "pick and place" were that easy !.
Am sorry to say this but your either a dreamer or you have so much money that you do not know what to do with it but reading the posts and answers you have gave are just too far fetched, this is more likely to be an april fools joke than a genuine query that would no way be posted on some forum but rather to a board of designers and company executives.
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2011-03-25
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Originally Posted by uvatbc
Both me and my business partner already have started our own successful business. So no this isn't our first business venture and they also serve as our source of income. Um if i understand your Angel fund question, you mean who is going to order a product that they write a check for and then get delivered? If thats the case then we have two people. To having atleast one experienced geek, the technical expert of our foundation,... well from my business partner's point of view LOLZ that was me....
OP: The simplest way to get things done is to imitate well known designs and products (legally).
Have you checked out Beagleboard?
Meego has been ported to it.
Have you chosen (in your mind) at least one experienced geek who can be the technical foundation of your product? Remember that this person needs to be reliable, trustworthy and experienced in both software and hardware. What about marketing, sales and the person who has contacts or can make them? Do you have any contact with VCs?
Whats your "first step" for the next 6 months? What after that?
What about cash flow? Who's going to Angel fund you to bootstrap your venture? Do you have an alternate source of income?
Is this your first business venture? If not, have you considered typing up with an experienced entrepreneur instead of going all alone?
Have you documented out all these things in your mind, on paper?
In other words, where is your business plan?
There's a lot of work to be done.
... and to any average person I am very experienced with computers but TRUSSSST ME, i knowwwwwww, i have a veryyy veryy long ways to go before I know a lot about computers as far as concerned as people who know a lot about computers are concerned. but i know just from my personality and my ability to work with computers and the knowledge i do have from working on hardware and learning programming that I am very capable of being an asset to this project..just have to buckle down and figure my s**t out asap cuz things are changing fast. As for marketing and all the related questions, our two contacts.. well if they like the prototype then one of them wants 100,000 and the other will buy thousands at a time more or less depending on how his stores do. They will handle any marketing and distribution and all that. All we have to do is show them a prototype they like and sell them the product. Theyre both self-made multimillionaires and family friends of my business partner.And thank you for those two links I am going to check them out now
EDIT: Dude thank you very much for those two links. I think I will be able to learn a lot from what beagleboard has done to achieve the success they have. And as for meego being ported to it, it looks like the notes on how it was done will be very useful for me considering what might be involved in getting meego or any OS ported to the device I build. Thanks a lot bud.
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2011-03-25
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Originally Posted by abill_uk
Trust me I understand your skepticism but trust me I am for real and I don't intend to fail. And you know..come to think of it.. you're right. I have never heard of a company that designs the product here and then has the parts made and assembled in china then shipped over........
What you are stating here for anyone to take on such a project would have to have a LOT of financial security and certainly know what "proggy" is short for !.
Hardware manufacturers supply either full spec or device drivers and that is long before the OS is designed.
How can YOU be building a tablet when you have just stated a Chinese company will be making the pcb as you put it.
Any designer just does not pick components because of individual thought, you just cannot mix and match components that you "think" are what you would like to see in a particular design, i wish "pick and place" were that easy !.
Am sorry to say this but your either a dreamer or you have so much money that you do not know what to do with it but reading the posts and answers you have gave are just too far fetched, this is more likely to be an april fools joke than a genuine query that would no way be posted on some forum but rather to a board of designers and company executives.
and what do you mean PCB as i put it, thats how YOU put it lmao..
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But I totally understand what you're saying, I do believe that there are very intelligent folk on this forum and I would actually love to have their helpful input and to learn from them.
So if you can not be an a**hole when I respond I will reply to every question you asked.
I don't know what proggy means. explain and I will answer. Printed circuit board I am having made in a trusted chinese factory that made the motherboard for the augenus gentouch. so i wont be soldering any cpus or other multifunctional components. as for what processor, i think something along the lines of an ARMv6. something similar to the one used in the zt180. looking at the A8 as well. perhaps you would like to suggest one and state your reasoning why?