As above....its back a few pages.

English and Precise. Thats me

Keep adding reasons to donate, the more the better, i just gave one NOT the only one

No need to capitalize "precise" and apostrophes for "it's" and "that's", but that's just me...

But seriously though, you've just given proof that I did not say $200. Let's leave it at that, I'm not going to mention the exact amount.

Way off-topic but something I was thinking about just a day ago whilst using my HP TouchPad... imagine if a company like HP had started a simple $1 a month fee to access their app store. At full-price, that would be suicide.

But at their sale price of $99 USD, they're losing a ton of money. To make some of it back, they could charge that simple $1 a month to all device owners - say it's for maintaining the servers. It would probably be welcomed.

That would be around 270k more than likely sold, or 500k if you were to look at how many were built (estimates only, I don't know the full numbers), and they'd recoup some of that loss over the life of the product.

Just a thought.

lol pedantic....either way, its not something to brag about is it.

Few Dollars
Few Hundred dollars
Few Thousand dollars
Few Million Dollars

Can we agree to dropping the semantic battle? It's quite petty and overly annoying.

We, can, only if You and ysss can stop responding to abil ****. Really guys, if You can't add him to ignore list, please, use PM. It's only thank to ones like You (not to mentioning that little idiot) that such a trolls have someone to talk with, and spam almost every thread.

I'm extremely happy that they're too stupid to use mailing list, at least this medium is free of them.

BTW, I think this topic started to duplicate "bright ideas" about maemo future from many other thread. +, OP showed that he's quite abillish. Summing it all up, I've totally lost interest in this thread, and - while respecting everyone right to decide what to do with own time - I suggest everyone to do the same. It's only another chit-chat without any sense or conclusions/projects coming out from it.

Duly noted.

Ok everybody, cut the crap. Lets not have personal attacks.

thebtman, you're the OP and you've gotta be willing to listen to others points without mocking them. Thats the only way we can move forward. Lets not get petty. You asked why I was taking "such effort to involve yourself with this thread". The reason is that while I don't think the plan being discussed (paying new devs to port maemo) is feasible, doesnt mean I want to see Maemo/n900 die anytime soon. And I want to help find a solution.

And you asked me to provide details about manhours involved in porting. I am not a developer and thus the following maybe completely wrong, but it may give some idea:
Time taken for porting android to maemo: 2+ years and still essential functions are not ready...
Time taken for porting Meego to N900 (no closed bits involved here IMO): 1.5 years+ it's getting there...

So a major project like porting Maemo cannot be done commercially. ie, We cannot pay somebody to do it as the financial numbers involved will be huge. We can only hope that some benevolent developer takes this up as his pet project and then we can help him with donations.

Ysss, you have mentioned that you dont agree with the plan being discussed. Ok, but do you have any suggessions for us?

abill, hmmm, I am not sure I understand what you're saying. This is what I understand (correct me if I am wrong): That we can reverse-engineer the closed source bits and while it is a legal grey area, no court will find us faulty as it is not done for profit. Am i right?
See, I am not an expert in licenses, but there is a fundemental problem here. Even If we have nokia's code (reverse-engineered), how do we distribute it? It of course has to distributed (as CSSU or a seperate distro), but what license will the code be released? We cannot use GPL or any similiar licenses as it is Nokia's code.
So, even if reverse engineering the code is possible, and we ignore the legal/moral implications, only individuals can use it and we wont be able to legitimately share it or distribute it.

So IMO, its time we start being realistic and forget the NOKIA option.

When I registered, I thought I would be able to get live stream of football, but all I see are posts
Am I missing something, or is there only chat?