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2011-07-11
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Originally Posted by gerbick
It's sad because it's true.
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2011-07-11
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Also work in the technical field and most with smartphones have an android phone now. Some have an iphone. One has a nokia n8. From what I know most android buyers are not enthusiasts, they just buy android cause there is no other alternative to the iphone. And a lot of people don't even consider nokia to be a player, because they weren't smartphone buyers at the time nokia was king. Still I know people who bought smartphones before the iphone, and I guess they'd be willing to come back to nokia if they'd offer a compelling device.
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2011-07-11
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Originally Posted by gerbick
Yea, I'm quite agreeing with you on most points. Dissing competitors is rather immature. I don't much see the need for that, as I was saying what little I know of WP7 it does have potential and afaik it's even gotten rather positive reviews.
Here's what I don't personally get. I totally understand the unwillingness to embrace technology that you determine is inferior or doesn't suit your needs; however to do that without any usage and/or prior knowledge other than hearsay is rather odd. If you're going to be skeptical, then back it up with research.
I don't quite get it because if somebody says something against your platform of choice, people have a very quick tendency to state "You didn't do your research!" first.
I'm not saying go out, buy everything out there. But at least be able to knowledgeable discuss why you don't like things and why you hadn't looked at it. Otherwise, if you get pushed aside because your rhetoric is easily found repeated ad nauseum at slashdot.org, then folks will dismiss your contribution as a reviewer they'd pay attention to as well. Fanboys, early adopters and FOSS loyalists (not the ones that freely download never contribute, they don't matter mostly anyway) make up a very small buying metric out there.
We're enthusiasts. We'll buy a phone because it has a Linux kernel on it. Not that it means it's better. Or that it's great. But because of that one fact sometimes. And we're a percentage of a percentage, small change.
Ask Nokia.
Do your research. It doesn't hurt.
After Nokias announcement I was doing lot of soul searching and was even considering giving WP7 development a shot (I know!! *shiver*), but then in the end I realized they don't have SDK for Linux anyway and in every way it's concentrated around their own product portfolio, so I just don't see the point trying to force myself into that mold even if the product was awesome.
And I don't think that makes me better than those hundreds of millions that fits in it perfectly, I just have different needs!
Anyways, dammit it's easy to get derailed off topic!! Sorry about that, now lets get back to N9 gossip
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2011-07-11
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Originally Posted by PortaDiFerro
Just to clarify, I wasn't really pointing you out despite quoting you. It was just an odd thing I had been wanted to address.
Yea, I'm quite agreeing with you on most points. Dissing competitors is rather immature. I don't much see the need for that, as I was saying what little I know of WP7 it does have potential and afaik it's even gotten rather positive reviews.
Not that opinion is bad - hell, feel free. I just... had to point it out.
But to say something... with a WP7 phone, the positive reviews are mostly due to the perceived quickness in the UI. I can say that's somewhat true, but it's not exactly a bug-free experience.
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2011-07-11
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Hey, wake up!
Why do not you let things be? Upcoming iPhone, WP7 and Android phones will not prevent success in the N9.
Let us wait for the end of September in peace.
Use the Force
Why do not you let things be? Upcoming iPhone, WP7 and Android phones will not prevent success in the N9.
Let us wait for the end of September in peace.
Use the Force
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2011-07-12
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Originally Posted by catbus
The days of announcing and waiting need to be over. By September, there will be a confirmed release of iOS 5, Google Ice Cream will have been shown, MeeGo 1.3 will be nearing final and who knows what else will have been released or about to come out. Hell, Mango for WP7 will be almost out.
Let us wait for the end of September in peace.
And by that time, my lust for even a N950 might have subsided if I can find a gadget that fits my needs and has availability to match.
Nokia's ****ing it up. Again.
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2011-07-12
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Originally Posted by catbus
Don't you mean, "Hey, we'll wake you when it's really here."?
Hey, wake up!
Why do not you let things be?
Upcoming iPhone, WP7 and Android phones will not prevent success in the N9.
Let us wait for the end of September in peace.
Use the Force
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N9: Go white or go home
N9: Go white or go home
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2011-07-12
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Originally Posted by catbus
Agreed. The N9 itself will prevent the success in the N9, the rest juat provide the competition to it. :P
Hey, wake up!
Why do not you let things be? Upcoming iPhone, WP7 and Android phones will not prevent success in the N9.
Let us wait for the end of September in peace.
Use the Force
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Nokia's slogan shouldn't be the pedo-palmgrabbing image with the slogan, "Connecting People"... It should be one hand open pleadingly with another hand giving the middle finger and the more apt slogan, "Potential Unrealized." --DR
Nokia's slogan shouldn't be the pedo-palmgrabbing image with the slogan, "Connecting People"... It should be one hand open pleadingly with another hand giving the middle finger and the more apt slogan, "Potential Unrealized." --DR
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2011-07-12
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Originally Posted by mikecomputing
Abbra's confirmed that MHL's not implemented.
and that is one of the most stupid thing about n9 why the **** is this not included?
that could be a good sell argument. even E7 has it
I guess there was some stupid people behind this I am sure they could include it and even that it is on the board but not included in the endline cause then it would be better than upcoming WPsuckphone
But I still hope that one day MHL will be do-able through a license + fw update, that enables it in the necessary hardware, which is already there.
Wishful thinking but one can dream.... sigh
Originally Posted by Tiptronic
That's it?
-X7 looks way better
-No real keyboard
Has a keyboard so you think the X7's better than the N9?
I'm not sure how "overall" you see the X7 as "better"
What about the OS & other aspect of the hardware?
-Doesn't look handier then maemo
Plus there's plans afoot to tweak all of the big UI changes from maemo5, so we can switch back to older(better) paradigms if we want.
But overall the UI changes are vastly better (at least for a handset) IMO.
Originally Posted by Rugoz
Yeah if they price it similarly to iP5 (even iP4) they're sunk.
Dual core and better graphics certainly would not hurt for some applications. But its ok as long as they don't try to make is as expensive as an iPhone. I'll buy it anyway, but for other people that is an issue.
Only Apple can get away with "priceyness" & have people believe it's a bargain.
But they will price it stupidly, because they don't "really" want it to be successful.
I'll still buy it so long as it's not "super crazy" pricing, & so long as it's local by 30/09.
Any later and I'm done with Nokia...
Originally Posted by mscion
Or they could stop ignoring Myriad, who've been trying to convince Nokia to license Alien Dalvik & integrate it.
I'm wondering if a better strategy for NOKIA would have been to,ok, swap symbian with windows and, I hate to say it, swap maemo/meego with android
Many Android users who've invested much time/$ into the android ecosystem...
Could be coerced into giving N9/Meego a go, if Nokia plugged Alien Dalvik really hard.
Have you guys read how well that thing works? It's bloody impressive...
But I'm convinced senior management don't want the N9 to be "too" successful, so they won't open that flood gate.
I also don't buy the argument that it'd mortally wound QT/apps if they did that...
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2011-07-12
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Originally Posted by gerbick
Hallelujah, I don't think I've ever agreed with you more.
The days of announcing and waiting need to be over. By September, there will be a confirmed release of iOS 5, Google Ice Cream will have been shown, MeeGo 1.3 will be nearing final and who knows what else will have been released or about to come out. Hell, Mango for WP7 will be almost out.
And by that time, my lust for even a N950 might have subsided if I can find a gadget that fits my needs and has availability to match.
Nokia's ****ing it up. Again.
Nokia NEEDS TO DELIVER, time is srsly running out!!
In so many ways it has already really....
Originally Posted by danramos
ROFL
Agreed. The N9 itself will prevent the success in the N9, the rest juat provide the competition to it. :P
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