Take a second look at his name, then take a guess.

Well, I have both an iPhone and a N800. They both have their uses... I enjoy surfing the web with the 800 more that the iPhone, but you can't beat the iPhoe/Ipod as a jukebox... iTunes integration would be a killer app for the 800...

Well it was more of a rhetorical question.

The only thing you'll want to watch out for is this:

Once you grow comfortable with an iPhone or iPod touch, you will likely use your N810 less and less. Especially with 3rd party apps starting at the end of this month. You'll have a GOOD music player that syncs, in addition to an "internet platform" in one.

What will the N800 provide other than unpolished/unfinished versions of whats on the iPod/iPhone? We'll likely see multi-IM clients from companies like BeeJive (JiveTalk), and if they provide access to the filesystem then we'll end up with quality versions of FTP, Terminal apps and real games from big developers... Stuff that will never reach the N800.

And an email client works, instead of having a broken one for 2 years (IMAP) and terrible open-source ports with contacts that can actually SYNC.

I am sorry that I mock the N810's software, but every time I get started on a post I remember my frustrations and observations.

Free and frustrating just doesn't add up. I'd wager that most people are willing to pay a few dollars for something that works, easily.

One issue that hasn't been addressed in this thread (which may be of only limited importance to most users) is sound quality between the iPods and N800's. This matter has though been discussed elsewhere in this forum (search "audiophile"). But we may be talking a bit of apples-and-oranges here if sound quality is of any concern. Even among the various dedicated media players on the market, there appears to be significant difference in and concern for the quality of the sound produced. For those interested in pursuing this matter, Google of course provides the gateway.

Apple has been bricking jailbroken iPhones via iTunes updates. So I don't think:

We'll likely see multi-IM clients from companies like BeeJive (JiveTalk), and if they provide access to the filesystem then we'll end up with quality versions of FTP, Terminal apps and real games from big developers...

So I think it will more likely be a few highly polished but captive and isolated applications (e.g. no downloading or playing podcasts - which really frustrates me) v.s. what you consider unpolished on the N810 but with all the flexibility. Even a "disk mode".

Erm. The bricking is only unlocked iphones, because people are messing with the baseband firmware.... Which by the way you can now undo with the 1.1.3 firmware, as it completely rewrites the baseband.

Since we're just spreading misinformation... All N810's with ScummVM running will explode and Nokia bans you from using their products forever.

People are bricking their phones because they are stupid. There is no other reason.

When os2008 has a functional pim I will get rid of my palm lifedrive and stop considering the purchase of an ipod touch. If the touch sdk provides developers with easy access to create useful software I will be in line to purchase one. Also why can't Nokia develope a similar touch type keyboard to the iphone/touch? The touch onscreen input just feels antiquated.

Apple are great designed products but it is all closed software, even worse then MS, overpriced and underspec'd for what you get. Using the latest version of Canola along with a good sized memory card or two and you have a more functional device than an ipod touch with much more memory... Sure its a little larger as it has speakers but its not bad! BTW you can get a 16GB SDHC card from newegg at the minute for all of $70!

in canada it is improper edicatte to have more than two beer ... in your hands at one time.same goes for geeks and gadgets.more than two and youll have to keep some in yor pocket