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2010-11-24
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Originally Posted by gerdich
Please reread my replies... and when you truly understand what I'm talking about, send me a pm
"tap and swipe" is not only for zooming.
It defines a complete matrix:
You have the center: "tap"
You have TWO other points: start of swiping, end of swiping
This defines two vectors:
center-start, center-end
This defines exactly:
a) Zoom factor around the center (stretching)
b) Rotation around the center
This is not complicating but the exact counterpart to "swipe only" which is a simple translation.
This is very easy and intuitive and can easily be realized.
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2010-11-24
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Maybe with something like a wacom bamboo, or apple magic trackpad. You'd still need a driver, and possibly also MPX support.
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2010-11-24
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Dear ysss!
I didn't want to make you angry but to reply exactly to your question.
You have asked: "Just for zooming. But where is the rotation..?"
...and I have answered that "tap and swipe" defines a rotation together with the zooming at the same time.
I think in fact that YOU haven't understood the efficency of "tap and swipe".
This little gesture defines on a very intuitive way a very complex transformation.
It's very mathematical and well defined.
Only one gesture (tapping and swiping) but at the same time a zooming and a rotational movement are defined.
I didn't want to make you angry but to reply exactly to your question.
You have asked: "Just for zooming. But where is the rotation..?"
...and I have answered that "tap and swipe" defines a rotation together with the zooming at the same time.
I think in fact that YOU haven't understood the efficency of "tap and swipe".
This little gesture defines on a very intuitive way a very complex transformation.
It's very mathematical and well defined.
Only one gesture (tapping and swiping) but at the same time a zooming and a rotational movement are defined.
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2010-11-24
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Originally Posted by gerdich
Well, I know enough that:
Dear ysss!
I didn't want to make you angry but to reply exactly to your question.
You have asked: "Just for zooming. But where is the rotation..?"
...and I have answered that "tap and swipe" defines a rotation together with the zooming at the same time.
I think in fact that YOU haven't understood the efficency of "tap and swipe".
This little gesture defines on a very intuitive way a very complex transformation.
It's very mathematical and well defined.
Only one gesture (tapping and swiping) but at the same time a zooming and a rotational movement are defined.
1. Tap and swipe is generally interpreted as panning.
2. I've thus suggested 'double-tap and swipe' 2 months before your post here: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=58286&page=3
3. It's only useful for 2 axis. You can either assign that to panning OR zoom + rotate. Not both.
Notice that I've always mentioned the ability to zoom, rotate + pan all at the same time, with multitouch. If you don't know how fluid and natural that feels like, go play with an iPad (or Galaxy Tab?) for a few minutes. (Yes, yes, they're bigger. There are smaller screen implementations too, but the default photo apps in iPad is a pretty great demo of this.)
4. We're only talking about -one- advantage of multitouch. There are myriads more, not to mention you can make use of more than 2 points at the same time.
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2010-11-24
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The word "swipe" doesn't appear in your thread.
The gesture "tap&swipe" is an invention from me and mentionned in the thread I've already indicated to you.
Again: It is this thread:
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=61911
It is NOT panning!!!
Panning is realized by normal swiping.
This is a parallel translation.
"Tap&Swipe" is another thing. With the first tap you indicate a center (for rotation or streching).
With the swiping you define a rotation and streching.
"Swipe" and "Tap&Swipe" can live together next door.
They replace everything you could realize on a smart phone with multitouch.
They are more suitable for little screens than multitouch.
The gesture "tap&swipe" is an invention from me and mentionned in the thread I've already indicated to you.
Again: It is this thread:
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=61911
It is NOT panning!!!
Panning is realized by normal swiping.
This is a parallel translation.
"Tap&Swipe" is another thing. With the first tap you indicate a center (for rotation or streching).
With the swiping you define a rotation and streching.
"Swipe" and "Tap&Swipe" can live together next door.
They replace everything you could realize on a smart phone with multitouch.
They are more suitable for little screens than multitouch.
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2010-11-24
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Originally Posted by gerdich
What is the difference between swipe and slide?
The word "swipe" doesn't appear in your thread.
The gesture "tap&swipe" is an invention from me and mentionned in the thread I've already indicated to you.
Again: It is this thread:
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=61911
It is NOT panning!!!
Panning is realized by normal swiping.
This is a parallel translation.
"Tap&Swipe" is another thing. With the first tap you indicate a center (for rotation or streching).
With the swiping you define a rotation and streching.
"Swipe" and "Tap&Swipe" can live together next door.
They replace everything you could realize on a smart phone with multitouch.
They are more suitable for little screens than multitouch.
One is Apple approved, the other is generic?
What I meant by my first point:
1. 1st tap : object\region selection
2. When you slide^H^H^H^H^H swipe, that will usually pan\move the object.
Thus, your 'tap&swipe' will conflict against the existing gui paradigms and that's not a good thing. That's why we discussed 'double tap+slide' on that thread I referenced.
Whatever, this is a thread about multitouch.
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2010-11-24
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Originally Posted by ysss
That is an argument but it is wrong. (And I did answer this objection already in my thread, before the question.)
What I meant by my first point:
1. 1st tap : object\region selection
Tap&swipe doesn't conflict with existing gui paradigms, like tap&hold doesn't either.
If the tapping is immediately follow by a swipe it is a tap&swipe and NOT a single tap.
(And even if the" tap" was also interpreted as object selection that wouldn't be a problem here, because you are always zooming and rotating active objects.)
Like tap&hold is different from a single tap also tap&swipe is different from a single tap.
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2010-11-26
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Is it possible to combine this liqbase with preenv, I personally dont need mulitouch anywhere else, but playing NOVA without multi touch is just too hard 
Originally Posted by thp
lcuk did implement fake multitouch in liqbase a long time ago: liqbase fake multitouch
There was also another multi-touch game post (fake multitouch, by having stationary buttons and calculate the button presses based on the position of the "combined" point) on Planet Maemo some months ago, but I can't find the link right now.
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2010-11-26
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Exactly! That's it!
We don't need multitouch but a good emulation of the (multitouch) "pinch" gesture for single touch devices.
(My proposition is "tap&swipe".)
We don't need multitouch but a good emulation of the (multitouch) "pinch" gesture for single touch devices.
(My proposition is "tap&swipe".)
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It defines a complete matrix:
You have the center: "tap"
You have TWO other points: start of swiping, end of swiping
This defines two vectors:
center-start, center-end
This defines exactly:
a) Zoom factor around the center (stretching)
b) Rotation around the center
This is not complicating but the exact counterpart to "swipe only" which is a simple translation.
This is very easy and intuitive and can easily be realized.