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2007-08-28
, 00:25
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Steps to Call:
1. Phone Button
2. Press chosen name in Favorites
Calling <Name>...
Steps to kill N95 battery in 2.5-3 hours:
1. Turn on GPS
2. Turn on Wifi
Dead by 1pm, right after your lunch break!
Nokia's high end products all seem to be "Technology Demo's". They suck in real world use. After 3-4 years it eventually trickles down and they improve their mass market stuff. "Ohh it has potential!! its gonna be amazing once someone writes something cool with this SDK Nokia gave us." Then its replaced with a new version before anyone does anything with it. But its all good, new technology demonstration! MORE CAPABILITIES! Zero integration!
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2007-08-28
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2007-08-28
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2007-08-28
, 21:02
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Actually, it's more like this:
1. Phone button
2. Scroll through hundreds of names
3. Keep scolling, almost there
4. Just a few more flicks
5. Press chosen name
Calling <Name>...
Only a ***** would walk/drive around with both GPS and wi-fi turned on constantly. And you'll quickly find that no one does that other than reviewers who have already made up their mind to hate the phone in the first place.
Tell you what, turn on the wi-fi on the iPhone as well as the GPS and start streaming internet radio and see how long the iPhone's battery lasts.
Oh wait, the iPhone doesn't have built-in GPS and can't stream internet radio.
Why the phuck are people buying the iPhone again? Oh yeah, the "cool" flick-scrolling and featuerless web browser.
Sorry, but that's not worth even close to the $2000 over the next two years that iPhone's going to cost you.
You've obviously never bothered to even look at the wide array of software out there for the new N and E-series devices running S60 3rd Edition.
Show me the FREE podcast client for the iPhone? There isn't one.
Show me the FREE SIP/VoIP client for the iPhone? There isn't one there either.
Show me the native universal IM/Chat client for the iPhone? There isn't one of those for the iPhone.
Google maps? I think just about every Nokia phone had that long before the iPhone came out.
I drop my N95 into the car mount and can use any of about 5 different GPS navigation applications that will guide me directly to where I need to go while at the same time keeping the phone charged. Can't do that with the iPhone.
A2DP? Suprisingly it's NOT present in the iPhone while it's been present in the N95 from day one. And guess what? Even the N800 can now do A2DP, even though it takes a little command-line skill to get it setup and running.
ANd Nokia's already addressing the poor battery life in the current N95 with a specialized US version that has a bigger battery as well as support for US-based 3G bands - well, the one AT&T uses anyway. That says they're listening to their customers. Nokia's last earning report stated that they've sold 1.5 million N95s world-wide to date with around 400,000 of them being in the United States alone. Not bad considering there isn't a single US carrier displaying them in any store, complete lack of big-media advertising, and only two Nokia stores in the entire country displaying them.
Battery-life, schmattery-life. I get home and drop the phone in it's recharge cradle where it sees and connects to my BT headset there. When I go to the car it drops into the cradle there and autoconnects with the Alpine BT module in my stereo system for handsfree calling. I've even gone as far as a complete 24 hour period before the phone needed recharging on a recent trip.
Now look at the recent reports of users finding "dead strips" on their beloved iPhones making them practically useless. Turns out that the company Apple originally got the touch-screen technology from had already found out about that "problem" a long time ago, before the iPhone was even announced.
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2007-08-28
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Favorites... You are feverous as a rabid linux user. Its only 2-3 touches to call your friends.
You pay for data and phone plans for the N95 too. So lets get over the $2000 subject. And if you must insist, you can just hack it and rely on WiFi.
Second. Having every feature on the planet, implemented in the most *** backwards way does not impress users. "Flicking and scrolling", ease of navigation, integration, size and quality of the product are all very relevant. You can fit 2 iPhones in the same space you fit an N95 brick.
Podcasting is handled by iTunes, as well as the built in web plug-in. You can stream any content handled by quicktime (mov, mp4, h.264, mp3) directly in safari, that inludes your "internet radio". I don't see that available on the N95.
iChat will likely be released soon, and if it doesn't there is already a beta chat client that can easily be 2 touch installed by Nullrivers install app. The iPhone has a real OS to work with and will completely eclipse all these anemic mobile OSes.
As far as "defects and bad screens", Apple next days you a loaner phone, for free mind you (they waive the $29) and have it back to you in 2-3 days. Last time I shipped a Nokia S60 device in, I got zero updates and got my repaired phone back in 37 days. Same thing happened with the N800, but only took 34 days.
I fail to see why people get so offended when the iPhone is brought up. It might be a tired topic, but its an amazing product that reaches into multiple markets.
Nobody would be discussing it if it wasn't a huge new player in the game.
It has a desktop class browser that is being updated... unlike the N95 browser that might get a patch in a quarterly firmware revision.
It actually runs an amazing OS that applications can be ported easily too. People are creating incredible apps with a homebrew SDK... NES emulators, libpurple messaging, games (doom, lights off), etc....
Basically its what the N95 and the N800 want to be. In 6 months, we'll be tired of arguing and there will be a plethora of updates and 3rd party applications (even if they are unsupported).
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2007-08-28
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2007-08-29
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I like this discussion. Have you been typing all this on the N95? I've been on my iPhone. The N95 doesn't do a good enough job untethering me with a number pad. Typing comfortably in widescreen on forums is wonderful on the iPhone. No accessory needed.
And just because Nokia uses WebKit to render pages, it doesn't give it the superior type faces, hardware accellerated scrolling, and easy navigation. An engine can't build the whole car. You seem to miss the point of having well implemented features vs plentiful features.
Exactly how much cheaper is the N95 monthlysince you say it matter of factly.
iPhone is $39 + 20 for unlimited data and 200 texts.
You also assume I am unfamiliar with S60 devices and the N95. I simply stated that most of the features you happily advertise as better than iPhone are terribly implemented. Try browsing for a few hours, or type a long email without a bluetooth keyboard. Its not gonna be half as comfortable.
21mm is double the thickness btw.
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2007-08-29
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Again, why would I use the browser on the N95 when I have the N800 for those times when I REALLY need to use the web?
The iPhone is hype when you consider what you get for ~$2000 over two years versus a real smartphone.
Tell you what, go open up a Word, Excel, and Powerpoint document on that iPhone "smartphone".
Not to mention the N95's built-in 5MP camera with uploading to various places on the net from the phone itself.
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2007-08-29
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Personally I don't really see the comparison, but I don't see why putting one down brings the other one up. I think they are both great devices for different things.
I will probably buy an iPhone at some point when it has 3G (can't go back to a non 3G phone at this point), a camera and at least flash (or some sdk - I am betting flash will be there first) which I am sure it will come, but it is still a different device.