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2009-07-01 , 22:34
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Originally Posted by volt View Post
You know, I have read a lot, awful lot of replies to feature or bug requests, and while it still would be nice with an upgrade, I have to say, that was a rather nice one.

It was polite, which is common but not always so. It was honest, in that it admitted that it had to forward it to someone who had a clue to what was asked. And it was positive, using many words and obviously wasn't based on a standard reply.

I bet someone used ten minutes, a quarter of an hour on your request.
But what is this statement got to do with the N8x0, "we are consistently working to improve our phones and their enhancements"? Obviously it is a standard reply.
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2009-07-01 , 22:46
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But what is this statement got to do with the N8x0, "we are consistently working to improve our phones and their enhancements"? Obviously it is a standard reply.
It's a lot like when you call, deal with a phone menu system and get put on hold with a voice recording that states, 'Your call is important to us.'

I don't mind that I'm put on hold to wait in a queue to wait for someone who is available to answer--but it's insulting and hypocritical to state that my call is important while I'm on hold, as if stating that will somehow make me feel as though there are unimportant calls to them that differentiate the one I'm making.

My Nokia product is isn't a phone nor an enhancement to a phone. Don't state such a thing if the topic of the conversation is irrelevant to phones or to an enhancement to them. Do you not hire people to recognize these flaws in your communications with customers? :P

Anyway.. now I'm just ranting.
 
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2009-07-01 , 23:20
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Guys, you do realise that the flash plugin is not a Nokia product and that the Linux version's quality and performance suck even on multi-core multi-GHz boxes, right? Of all the things to complain to Nokia about this has to be near the bottom of the list.
 

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2009-07-01 , 23:35
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Guys, you do realise that the flash plugin is not a Nokia product and that the Linux version's quality and performance suck even on multi-core multi-GHz boxes, right? Of all the things to complain to Nokia about this has to be near the bottom of the list.
Considering it's a touted feature which Nokia packaged with the OS.. I think it's quite likely in their court. Particularly because it came with the OS. Who do you think Adobe treats as their customer in this case? Nokia or the individual user?
 
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2009-07-01 , 23:39
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Originally Posted by lma View Post
Guys, you do realise that the flash plugin is not a Nokia product and that the Linux version's quality and performance suck even on multi-core multi-GHz boxes, right? Of all the things to complain to Nokia about this has to be near the bottom of the list.
Unfortunately it happens that the same feature is one of the key selling points for an internet device.
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2009-07-02 , 00:12
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Flash doesn't work?

WTF





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2009-07-02 , 00:21
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Considering it's a touted feature which Nokia packaged with the OS.
"Adobe® Flash® 9 plug-in, including video and audio streaming support" seems truthful to me for the Diablo lifecycle. Let's be realistic, Diablo's gone as far as it will go and perpetual updates for any component just aren't going to happen. Especially when the component in question is a third-party closed source implementation of a closed specification.

Particularly because it came with the OS.
So did a lot of other more important stuff. I'd be happy if they fixed their own (& reported within the product lifecycle) bugs at least. But then again, who does?
 

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2009-08-02 , 21:44
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Hi folks,

Adobe needs to be the one to update flash and make it available. Nokia can surely help encourage that, and we should continue to recommend to them that they do. BUT, we need to make it clear to Adobe that they have a large and vocal customer base to serve.

There is an enhancement request posted on Adobe's system to this effect. I encourage everyone to vote for this, as a clear sign that we exist and are requesting some action.

The bug number is FP-2381, and you can vote here (you will need to register with Adobe, but it's quick and painless).

https://bugs.adobe.com/jira/browse/FP-2381

Thanks!

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A lot of Linux users honestly have zero interest in the Adobe Flash Platform/Plugin. I've requested in more direct manners that an upgrade happen; and the Open Screen Initiative that Adobe is going to unleash in October hopefully includes what's already out but also what's forthcoming.

I'd almost have to say that I can only hope that it will happen.
 

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2009-08-02 , 23:21
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You don't even want to know how difficult it was to share that sort of thing inside.

Ever hear the expression "pushing rope"?
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