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#31
Of course it's no different, I just wanted to know how do people manage with a separate keyboard and no mouse.
 
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If you ask me (but no one did!), these keyboards are mainly good for typing emails or long docs. For those purposes, you aren't hitting the touch screen very often.

I don't use my bt keyboard much, for exactly the reason that it's somewhat awkward. I would like to have the keyboard sitting in a totally different place than my N800, but then hitting the screen would be awkward.

So I don't use my bt keyboard -- I use the virtual keyboard.

But if I was doing a substantial amount of typing, I would use it.

This of course would apply to non-bt keyboards as well as bt keyboards.
 
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Originally Posted by geneven View Post
So I don't use my bt keyboard -- I use the virtual keyboard.

But if I was doing a substantial amount of typing, I would use it.
Well, I don't plan to do great amount of typing on my tablet, at least not now, so I probably don't really need an external keyboard.
OTOH these rubber keyboards are so cheap on dealextreme and so, er, rubbery, that I think I'm going to get one even if I don't need it
 
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I have been playin around and have found some keyboard short cuts rather than using the touch screen. F4 brings up top menu. Tab goes through menu. Space and enter are used as enter or mouse1. Cntrl, shift arrow keys theres all sorts of combos ive yet to figure. I also checked control panel under bluetooth keyboard and there was a menu of key board short cuts..Who needs a mouse?

I'm a selfish bastard and I WANT ONE, or maybe a virtual head gear, with retina sensors, and a Big O button.
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#35
Originally Posted by dogsbody View Post
Wow, that Matias keyboard looks perfect! I think that may be the winner!

Cptnodegard: your picture is great
That Matias does look nice, but it doesn't come out until mid-February according to the Matias site. So please give us a review on how it works with your Nokia when you get it OK?

Thanks,
Neil
 
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#36
There's a really interesting compact USB keyboard referenced in a couple of old threads.
I just got one of these keyboards for my N810. $25 delivered.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Portable-Super-S...QQcmdZViewItem
It's an ideal size, and decently made.
Worked for Thoughtfix on his N800, half works for me on my N810.
Caps Lock, Num Lock and Scroll luck all lit and active, can't turn 'em off.
There must be some way to beat this, but I don't know what I'm doing.

dmesg output follows.

[ 1862.554687] EAC mode: play enabled, rec enabled
[ 1868.851562] EAC mode: play disabled, rec disabled
[ 1892.148437] tusb_source_power 629: VBUS a_wait_vrise, devctl 19 otg 174 conf c0010000 prcm 00a80500
[ 1921.328125] musb_stage0_irq 570: VBUS_ERROR in a_wait_bcon (91, <VBusValid), retry #1, port1 00000100
[ 1921.585937] musb_stage0_irq 646: CONNECT (a_host) devctl 3d
[ 1921.585937] hub 1-0:1.0: state 8 ports 1 chg 0000 evt 0000
[ 1921.585937] usb usb1: usb auto-resume
[ 1921.585937] usb usb1: finish resume
[ 1921.593750] hub 1-0:1.0: hub_resume
[ 1921.617187] hub 1-0:1.0: port 1, status 0301, change 0001, 1.5 Mb/s
[ 1921.773437] hub 1-0:1.0: debounce: port 1: total 100ms stable 100ms status 0x301
[ 1921.898437] usb 1-1: new low speed USB device using musb_hdrc and address 2
[ 1922.046875] usb 1-1: skipped 1 descriptor after interface
[ 1922.046875] usb 1-1: skipped 1 descriptor after interface
[ 1922.046875] usb 1-1: default language 0x0409
[ 1922.046875] usb 1-1: new device strings: Mfr=0, Product=2, SerialNumber=0
[ 1922.046875] usb 1-1: Product: USB K/B
[ 1922.046875] usb 1-1: device v05af p0807 is not supported
[ 1922.046875] usb 1-1: uevent
[ 1922.046875] usb 1-1: usb_probe_device
[ 1922.046875] usb 1-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
[ 1922.054687] usb 1-1: adding 1-1:1.0 (config #1, interface 0)
[ 1922.054687] usb 1-1:1.0: uevent
[ 1922.054687] usbhid 1-1:1.0: usb_probe_interface
[ 1922.054687] usbhid 1-1:1.0: usb_probe_interface - got id
[ 1922.054687] drivers/usb/input/hid-core.c: HID probe called for ifnum 0
[ 1922.070312] input: USB K/B as /class/input/input4
[ 1922.070312] input: USB HID v1.10 Keyboard [USB K/B] on usb-musb_hdrc-1
[ 1922.078125] usb 1-1: adding 1-1:1.1 (config #1, interface 1)
[ 1922.078125] usb 1-1:1.1: uevent
[ 1922.078125] usbhid 1-1:1.1: usb_probe_interface
[ 1922.078125] usbhid 1-1:1.1: usb_probe_interface - got id
[ 1922.078125] drivers/usb/input/hid-core.c: HID probe called for ifnum 1
[ 1922.093750] drivers/usb/input/hid-core.c: submitting ctrl urb: Get_Report wValue=0x0101 wIndex=0x0001 wLength=2
[ 1922.101562] drivers/usb/input/hid-core.c: submitting ctrl urb: Get_Report wValue=0x0102 wIndex=0x0001 wLength=4
[ 1922.101562] input: USB K/B as /class/input/input5
[ 1922.101562] input: USB HID v1.10 Device [USB K/B] on usb-musb_hdrc-1
[ 1922.101562] drivers/usb/core/inode.c: creating file '002'
[ 1922.101562] hub 1-0:1.0: 100mA power budget left
[ 1922.101562] hub 1-0:1.0: state 7 ports 1 chg 0000 evt 0002
[ 1922.101562] hub 1-0:1.0: port 1 enable change, status 00000303
[ 1937.304687] EAC mode: play enabled, rec enabled
/home/user #

Any of that mean anything to anyone?
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#37
Hi dubwise, your link doesn't work. Any chance you could fix the link. Thank you
 
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#38
Link edited. It's the MC super slim compact USB keyboard.
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#39
Here the USB keyboard (actually a thumb-board) that I've been successfully using with my n800:

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I bought it a couple of years ago and never used it much. I recently found it in one of my boxes of stuff and tried it on my n800. I'm now getting my money's worth for a device that I never used much before!

I got mine at EBGames in 2005, bit don't know if they are still available there or elsewhere.

Good luck!
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#40
Does that PS2 one plug in directly to USB, or do you need a separate adapter for that? That would basically make the N800 kind of like the N810.

Any chance you could post a photo of that keyboard attached to the N800, for size comparison?

Thanks.
 
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