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mikecomputing	2011-08-16 , 18:17
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Originally Posted by olighak

I could believe these threads:
http://twitter.com/#!/eldarmurtazin/...19382428430337

jwf
Well it makes sense you said Nokia are looking to sell their smartphone devision to them
9 hours ago

Eldar Murtazin
ms dont want to buy it now
9 hours ago

jwf
So they have changed their mind or are they waiting for suitable time ?
9 hours ago

Eldar Murtazin
have no details. According to sources Elop couldnt show progress
9 hours ago via Twitter for Android

Bhairav
So what happens now elop gets fired nokia goes android gets swipe on android?
7 hours ago

This thread I could believe as well:
http://twitter.com/#!/eldarmurtazin/...19565073584128

Eldar == working for Elop

jo21	2011-08-16 , 19:15
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Originally Posted by bbin

Don't worry dude! It's not your English, it has to be something else

By the way I'm not sure... maybe it's just my bad English but I think it's called WP7.

u take rebranding too kindly.

its still same kernel of windows CE.

so even monkey dressed in expensive clothes it's still a monkey.

	tissot	2011-08-16 , 19:24
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Originally Posted by mikecomputing

Eldar == working for Elop

More like Samsung.

bbin	2011-08-16 , 20:13
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Originally Posted by jo21

u take rebranding too kindly.

its still same kernel of windows CE.

so even monkey dressed in expensive clothes it's still a monkey.

Maybe your right, but then again I don't care about the kernel and neither does 99% of smartphone users.

My opinions don't mean that I would prefer WP7 over meego I'm just too tired of this FUD and hatred. Too much feelings involved. It's business guys.

Rauha	2011-08-16 , 20:15
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Originally Posted by bbin

Too much feelings involved. It's business guys.

Bad business.

bbin	2011-08-16 , 20:21
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Originally Posted by Rauha

Bad business.

Business hurts your feelings or stock portfolio?

Rauha	2011-08-16 , 20:27
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Originally Posted by bbin

Business hurts your feelings or stock portfolio?

Well the topic of thread is lets talk Nokia stock.

Nokia share price, Nokia's financials, market analysts and things that are usually used to measure business seem to all agree that it's bad business.

But sure lets be less negative if it upsets you.

Last edited by Rauha; 2011-08-17 at 12:46.

	Texrat	2011-08-16 , 20:38
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Originally Posted by mikecomputing

Eldar == working for Elop

Well, someone DID claim a while back they discovered a Nokia email address for him...

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jcdr	2011-08-16 , 21:18
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I have read some interesting comments here
http://communities-dominate.blogs.co...ge/4/#comments

The different post about how Apple and Nokia handle big transition are dramatically true.

I could't agree more to the comment from "MIP":

"... Now whether that is because Elop is obliged by contract to sacrifice the N9 despite the rave reviews it has received, or if he is doing it simply by choice, is a moot point if the end result is the same: Nokia, under Elop, is currently not allowed to maximize its profits.

And THAT is a reason itself to question his postition as a CEO."

ericsson	2011-08-16 , 22:04
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Originally Posted by jcdr

I have read some interesting comments here
http://communities-dominate.blogs.co...ge/4/#comments

The different post about how Apple and Nokia handle big transition are dramatically true.

I could't agree more to the comment from "MIP":

"... Now whether that is because Elop is obliged by contract to sacrifice the N9 despite the rave reviews it has received, or if he is doing it simply by choice, is a moot point if the end result is the same: Nokia, under Elop, is currently not allowed to maximize its profits.

And THAT is a reason itself to question his postition as a CEO."

Stop fooling yourself. For several years Nokia tumbled with no aim and no direction believing that their OS'es would magically transform themselves to streamlined modern iOS-like wonders simply by going open source. In hindsight, it is an almost criminally naive philosophy for a large company like Nokia to have. What is needed is strong leadership, excellent programmers and focus, focus focus.

Nothing wrong with open source, but it is not the right method to make a competitive end user OS, not without "corporate disciplined" teams.

The MeeGo philosophy where 1.2 still is a pre alpha release, just isn't good enough.

The N9 is cool and will be purchased, not because of Linux, but because of Swipe (not open source) and the complete out of the box experience. "No" N9 for the US, UK etc is an unfortunate result of all the errors done in previous years.

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