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2010-06-03
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MicroB (no other browser compares)
easyDebian
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2010-06-03
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Originally Posted by nosa101
100% agreed with nosa101
You are missing the point.
Look at this way, there two options to take screenshots.
a) you press a button, lets say the camera button (with the lens shut)
b)CTRL+SHIFT+P
WHich is the more intuitive option?
EDIT: Having the command line is good, no question about that. Look at the App Manager*, for instance. Using it download apps is a lot more intuitive than the apt-get option. It is easier too look through apps and find which ones to download. SOmetimes, I go to the app manager with no app in mind. I just hope something catches my eye. The command line can't do that.
*Ignore the fact that it is slow
There is a saying we physicists have:
"The most simple solution is always the best solution"
An excellent example of this would be the concept of a simplified formula
Eg. for day to day use what would you prefer:
p = m*a/(pi*r^2)
and then arbitrarily fill in each variable or constant
Or simply:
p = F/A
Simplicity might be limiting, but complexity is only useful if it is specifically required.
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2010-06-03
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Originally Posted by PradaBrada
Holy crap, a reasonable, sarcasm and spite free response from PradaBrada. You should do this more often.
100% agreed with nosa101
There is a saying we physicists have:
"The most simple solution is always the best solution"
An excellent example of this would be the concept of a simplified formula
Eg. for day to day use what would you prefer:
p = m*a/(pi*r^2)
and then arbitrarily fill in each variable or constant
Or simply:
p = F/A
Simplicity might be limiting, but complexity is only useful if it is specifically required.
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2010-06-03
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i was having trouble that my symbian devices has docs editor and viewer and my maemo doesn't.
but EasyDebian was installed and killed all my troubles.
but EasyDebian was installed and killed all my troubles.
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2010-06-03
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Alarmed, it does all the things i had to do on my own, everyday. 
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2010-06-03
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#57
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Originally Posted by nosa101
It does look like something you used to get on a 5 1/4 " floppy glued to the inside back cover of a 3 ring binder that held 40 pages of double spaced, mimeographed instructions.
You are missing the point.
Look at this way, there two options to take screenshots.
a) you press a button, lets say the camera button (with the lens shut)
b)CTRL+SHIFT+P
WHich is the more intuitive option?
EDIT: Having the command line is good, no question about that. Look at the App Manager*, for instance. Using it download apps is a lot more intuitive than the apt-get option. It is easier too look through apps and find which ones to download. SOmetimes, I go to the app manager with no app in mind. I just hope something catches my eye. The command line can't do that.
*Ignore the fact that it is slow
But that is part of its charm.
It's just missing that mimeograph smell, that's all.
Simple and powerful are not mutually exclusive and for people who were trained on programs that were distributed the way I mentioned, it is very intuitive. Intuition isn't magic, it is the sum total of all conditioned responses an individual has learned IMHO.
For some reason I'm reminded of how Scottie "intuitively" picked up a mouse and tried to speak to the computer in one of the Star Trek movies.
MC does what it does well. If you want slick just cruise on in from the computer console and file manager of your choice.
BTW, Openssh v5.1p1-6.maemo5 is my nominee for killer app.
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2010-06-03
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Originally Posted by rebhana
Someday will appear, but it isn't a priority
Great! Hopefully it will soon appear in Extras!
For me, Easy Debian brings the full power of Linux to the N900. In particular, it allowed me to combine zim with Latex and run it with versioning control - things that probably will be stripped for the native app, no?
You can follow zim development in its own thread
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=46123
Last edited by maacruz; 2010-06-03 at 11:58. Reason: Reference zim thread
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2010-06-03
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Originally Posted by maacruz
I think his point was that those do exist within Easy Deabian. That is why he was able to implement them on his Maemo device.
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No, but dependencies have to be satisfed for a feature to work, that is, if there is no latex package for maemo then the latex plugin can't work. Same for control version, although there exist a svn package so eventually the plugin could work once svn is supported
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2010-06-03
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Originally Posted by PradaBrada
I've got to admit, I'm very puzzled by this. It's not really a matter of choosing between the complex equation or the simple one, is it? If the single, somewhat complex equation
...There is a saying we physicists have:
"The most simple solution is always the best solution"
An excellent example of this would be the concept of a simplified formula
Eg. for day to day use what would you prefer:
p = m*a/(pi*r^2)
and then arbitrarily fill in each variable or constant
Or simply:
p = F/A
Simplicity might be limiting, but complexity is only useful if it is specifically required.
p = m*a/(pi*r^2)
is too difficult for you, don't you have to do not one, but three simple equations?
F=m*a
A=pi*r^2
p = F/A
A=pi*r^2
p = F/A
Either that, or you depend on someone else to do the preliminary calculations for you. And that means you have to take the accuracy of those preliminary calculations on faith. The complexity is still there, just not on display.
Still, that's certainly a valid choice, and if your killer apps are the ones that hide as much of their complexity from you, there's no arguing with that. For myself, there are many occasions when I can do what I need to do more readily with mc than with a graphical file manager that prettifies the interface, and in doing so hides elements that I need. That's what makes it a killer app for me.
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Look at this way, there two options to take screenshots.
a) you press a button, lets say the camera button (with the lens shut)
b)CTRL+SHIFT+P
WHich is the more intuitive option?
EDIT: Having the command line is good, no question about that. Look at the App Manager*, for instance. Using it download apps is a lot more intuitive than the apt-get option. It is easier too look through apps and find which ones to download. SOmetimes, I go to the app manager with no app in mind. I just hope something catches my eye. The command line can't do that.
*Ignore the fact that it is slow
Last edited by nosa101; 2010-06-03 at 00:48.