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Originally Posted by abill_uk View Post
Bernard your posts speaks volumes as it is sad to read that keen developers are just not being treated in a good way at all, more so why the many are now reporting meego as dead.

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The more information like yours that creeps out the woodwork puts together a clear picture of not only now but the future of meego and the N9, not good.

Am sorry to see a would be developer treated the way you are being treated.
I don't know if my experience is an isolated case, I hope it is.
I get the impression that Nokia effectively only intended to make the N9 dev kit for commercial developers available to previous Symbian third-party developers.
New commercial developers coming from iOS or Android or Maemo usually aren't that active on forum.nokia.com (now developer.nokia.com). It is mostly used by Symbian developers to get support, and mostly these developers would know about forum nokia developer launchpad programs.
 

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Originally Posted by BigBadGuber! View Post
Reading this forum is like talking to men with premature ejaculation. Calm down lads. The phone is coming. And it won't replace your Viagra.
Are you sure about that!? it seems to work for Iphone fanboys like you.
 
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#6373
Originally Posted by abill_uk View Post
This is down to mr wonderful Elop as he has ruined many dreams now with meego and that number of 92000 seems to now look logical by the information your reporting.

Many people are going to be dissapointed i tell you.
I knew that. Although I still can order n9, Hong Kong people angy nokia decision! ridiculous!
 

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Nokia France officially confirmed that the N9 will not be sold in France...

http://www.meegofrance.com/2011/09/pas-de-n9-france/

N9 will probably be sold only by some third-party players.
 

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Originally Posted by Bernard View Post
I don't know if my experience is an isolated case, I hope it is.
I get the impression that Nokia effectively only intended to make the N9 dev kit for commercial developers available to previous Symbian third-party developers.
New commercial developers coming from iOS or Android or Maemo usually aren't that active on forum.nokia.com (now developer.nokia.com). It is mostly used by Symbian developers to get support, and mostly these developers would know about forum nokia developer launchpad programs.
Not so long ago meego development was strong but as support deteriorated so went with it the enthusiasm and developers, this is what happened when Nokia pulled the plug on meego thanks to mr wonderful Elop who sizzled more than people even realise on here.

I looked at the progress of the meego.ce team and with time it slowed down drastically, that was the indication something was wrong and we are talking about development with access to all of the Maemo OS including all components for the N900.

Intel dropped out after Nokia and that left nobody supporting meego apart from private FOSS like development that is obviously not enough manpower to bring it together hence why it has more or less died.

IF it was still active i am sure you would have been given access to the development kit, so work it out for yourself.

I asked a question on here and as yet no one has answered it, it was a very relevent question of who is behind the OS of the N9.

The truths will come out finally when the device hits the market and in end users hands but i bet it is nothing like it is being reported on here.

Nokia as far as this community is concerned is a finished entity because very few want WP anything, so this N9 will probably be the last of the last from Nokia if mr wonderful has his way.
 
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Originally Posted by P@t View Post
Nokia France officially confirmed that the N9 will not be sold in France...

http://www.meegofrance.com/2011/09/pas-de-n9-france/

N9 will probably be sold only by some third-party players.
Your proving all the reports that said this in the beggining but people just did not take any notice because of blinded vision.

NOW reality is starting to show its ugly face on this thread !.
 
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Originally Posted by abill_uk View Post
Not so long ago meego development was strong but as support deteriorated so went with it the enthusiasm and developers, this is what happened when Nokia pulled the plug on meego thanks to mr wonderful Elop who sizzled more than people even realise on here.

I looked at the progress of the meego.ce team and with time it slowed down drastically, that was the indication something was wrong and we are talking about development with access to all of the Maemo OS including all components for the N900.

Intel dropped out after Nokia and that left nobody supporting meego apart from private FOSS like development that is obviously not enough manpower to bring it together hence why it has more or less died.

IF it was still active i am sure you would have been given access to the development kit, so work it out for yourself.

I asked a question on here and as yet no one has answered it, it was a very relevent question of who is behind the OS of the N9.

The truths will come out finally when the device hits the market and in end users hands but i bet it is nothing like it is being reported on here.

Nokia as far as this community is concerned is a finished entity because very few want WP anything, so this N9 will probably be the last of the last from Nokia if mr wonderful has his way.
MeeGo Harmattan was developed internally at Nokia (based on Debian). The MeeGo development on the MeeGo website really is a different beast.
There is overlap in components used, but the reality is that you can't say anything about how MeeGo Harmattan development was progressing based on the information on the MeeGo site.
I suspect that most of the development time (and problems) of MeeGo Harmattan were because of the totally new user interface and application set, not because of the core operation system.
The MeeGo Nokia/intel collaboration was intended to be a future update of the core operation system, providing Nokia the ability to use its modern (proprietary) harmattan UX, and a modern Core OS, without the need to develop everything internally.
But as it turns out building your own linux distribution from scratch isn't a very easy task, as was the development of SDK, UX and application set.

Maybe a bit of an exaggeration, but Nokia effectively tried to build a house by building all parts and everything needed to make those parts at the same time. Delays and problems were bound to happen.
 

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Originally Posted by mikecomputing View Post
Are you sure about that!? it seems to work for Iphone fanboys like you.
check this out:

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504763_1...-10391704.html
 
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Originally Posted by Bernard View Post
MeeGo Harmattan was developed internally at Nokia (based on Debian). The MeeGo development on the MeeGo website really is a different beast.
There is overlap in components used, but the reality is that you can't say anything about how MeeGo Harmattan development was progressing based on the information on the MeeGo site.
I suspect that most of the development time (and problems) of MeeGo Harmattan were because of the totally new user interface and application set, not because of the core operation system.
The MeeGo Nokia/intel collaboration was intended to be a future update of the core operation system, providing Nokia the ability to use its modern (proprietary) harmattan UX, and a modern Core OS, without the need to develop everything internally.
But as it turns out building your own linux distribution from scratch isn't a very easy task, as was the development of SDK, UX and application set.

Maybe a bit of an exaggeration, but Nokia effectively tried to build a house by building all parts and everything needed to make those parts at the same time. Delays and problems were bound to happen.
Bernard what is your opinion of the future of meego and the N9 especially concerning Nokia and the support it may or may not get.

Last edited by abill_uk; 2011-09-20 at 13:17.
 
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Originally Posted by marxian View Post


It's official: Only 92 N9s to be produced, and abill_uk will get 20 of them. Not many to go round, which would explain the silly prices.
LOL, that's just regular Murtazin ******** FUD. Has already been denied by couple of Nokia employees. What a jerk.
 
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