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2011-09-12
, 14:00
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#72
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Originally Posted by Cue
Cue - I have the HD space, I have the time, I have the CDR's/DVR's and I have the bandwidth. Why wouldn't I try them all? A bonus is it gives me something to do while my girlfriend is talking about "window treatments" and I pretend to listen!
Monkeyman, you seem to be installing every distro known to man. why? If it's simply to test it out it's far better just to do a live boot off a DVD or USB. You seem to be using a DVD, I suggest using a usb stick for two reasons, one, you don't keep creating coasters, two, OS persistence. This means that you can make changes in the booted OS and it is saved, without having to install the OS on your HDD at all. Here is a tool for you to create the USB sticks in around 3 clicks.
http://www.linuxliveusb.com/en/download
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2011-09-12
, 17:42
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#73
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Originally Posted by monkeyman
lol, OK, fair enough. Just seemed a waste to me especially since KDE can be installed on Ubuntu so installing both Kubuntu and Ubuntu seemed like installing Windows twice to try both MS office and OpenOffice, it's highly inconvenient for the user and a waste of space IMO.
Cue - I have the HD space, I have the time, I have the CDR's/DVR's and I have the bandwidth. Why wouldn't I try them all? A bonus is it gives me something to do while my girlfriend is talking about "window treatments" and I pretend to listen!
If I ever wanted both Kubuntu and Ubuntu I would just install the packages in Ubuntu and keep everything in one place.
http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/kde
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2011-09-13
, 02:32
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@ Low Earth Orbit
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#74
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Originally Posted by Cue
Use DVD rewritables. I keep a bunch around specifically for liveCDs and "recovery" CDs - systemrescue, grml - so they can be updated to latest version without having to waste a normal DVDr.
I suggest using a usb stick for two reasons, one, you don't keep creating coasters
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2011-09-13
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#75
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Originally Posted by kureyon
I use to do this too until my computer collection started to include Nettops with no drive. So I started using microSD cards instead, in a USB reader. The added bonus was that any changes I made to the LiveOS were saved for next boot. It also meant that I can boot from my N900
Use DVD rewritables. I keep a bunch around specifically for liveCDs and "recovery" CDs - systemrescue, grml - so they can be updated to latest version without having to waste a normal DVDr.
Sorry if this is off topic, good luck in your quest for Linux monkeyman.
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2011-09-13
, 16:46
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#76
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Originally Posted by Cue
I use to do this too until my computer collection started to include Nettops with no drive. So I started using microSD cards instead, in a USB reader. The added bonus was that any changes I made to the LiveOS were saved for next boot. It also meant that I can boot from my N900
Sorry if this is off topic, good luck in your quest for Linux monkeyman.
Thanks. Cue. Having been through many of the offerings (except openSUSE which never installed with a GUI even after downloading from three different sources) I'm sticking with Ubuntu 10.10 and Debian 6 in dual boot. Debian seems to work a bit better in my machine but Ubuntu offers a bit more for enjoyment sake. So for code I'll boot Debian and for enjoyment I'll boot Ubuntu. In the future I may give Fedora 15 another go but for now it doesn't seem to like dual or multiboot setup. So the primary suggestion made by everyone here turned out to be the one I am staying with (Ubuntu).
Thanks everyone, you've been a great help and I'm happy with the results. Now I've got to go learn BASH and this version of C (if different)!
David
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2011-09-13
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#77
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Originally Posted by monkeyman
Glad you found the distros which suit your needs David. The problem with openSUSE is most likely not a bad download but openSUSE becoming confused with what chip to use. My guess is that you have both onboard graphics and a graphics card? If you ever wish to try openSUSE it might be worth trying
Thanks. Cue. Having been through many of the offerings (except openSUSE which never installed with a GUI even after downloading from three different sources) I'm sticking with Ubuntu 10.10 and Debian 6 in dual boot. Debian seems to work a bit better in my machine but Ubuntu offers a bit more for enjoyment sake. So for code I'll boot Debian and for enjoyment I'll boot Ubuntu. In the future I may give Fedora 15 another go but for now it doesn't seem to like dual or multiboot setup. So the primary suggestion made by everyone here turned out to be the one I am staying with (Ubuntu).
Thanks everyone, you've been a great help and I'm happy with the results. Now I've got to go learn BASH and this version of C (if different)!
David
Code:
sax2 -p
Code:
sax2 -c X
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2011-09-14
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#78
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Cue - I'll give that a try if I attempt to install openSUSE again in the future. I'm surprised there could be such a problem because all of the distros are using the Linux kernel which contains the drivers and all of the others I've tried work with my PCIe NVidia GeForce 9600M GT (I only have the Nvidia with dedicated video RAM - not shared) you would expect that the kernel included with openSUSE would do the same.
I ran sudo lshw in Ubuntu 10.10 and it's only showing the "Nvidia GeForce 9600M GT" under "*-display" and the "Intel PCI Express Graphics Port" (what the second listiing was) under "*-pci:0". The pci:0 listing is only the controller for the PCIe as graphics port. Only the Nvidia card shows for graphics.
Some other problem for OpenSUSE (it may be that I'm making a mistake in my selections on install).
Maybe I should try a 32 bit version of openSUSE... could it be a bug in the 64 bit version of openSUSE 11.4 causing the problem? 11.4 is supposed to be a stable release and the Linux kernel is the same as Ubuntu so the problem of openSUSE not booting with or loading a GUI (Gnome or KDE) is odd.
Last edited by monkeyman; 2011-09-14 at 19:27.
I ran sudo lshw in Ubuntu 10.10 and it's only showing the "Nvidia GeForce 9600M GT" under "*-display" and the "Intel PCI Express Graphics Port" (what the second listiing was) under "*-pci:0". The pci:0 listing is only the controller for the PCIe as graphics port. Only the Nvidia card shows for graphics.
Some other problem for OpenSUSE (it may be that I'm making a mistake in my selections on install).
Maybe I should try a 32 bit version of openSUSE... could it be a bug in the 64 bit version of openSUSE 11.4 causing the problem? 11.4 is supposed to be a stable release and the Linux kernel is the same as Ubuntu so the problem of openSUSE not booting with or loading a GUI (Gnome or KDE) is odd.
Last edited by monkeyman; 2011-09-14 at 19:27.
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2011-09-15
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#79
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linux mint 11 +1. I'd choose this and then stick with it. Every linux at the time needs you to learn some things, so there's not any perfect distro for beginner imo.
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2011-09-16
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@ USA
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Debian became problematic with my sound card. I wiped the drive again and installled openSUSE 11.4 clean and alone. It went in with no problem and I found the source of the problem with it = Me. After the basic install it gives a message that I needed to eject the DVD and reboot. It rebooted on its own without the DVD being removed and it entered a secondary install which required the DVD. That was why I had a problem on my first two install attempts. It's in now and working just fine.
Added Ubuntu 10.10 in dual boot and no problems.
I'm going to try Kororaa 14, PC-BSD and Gentoo 2011 later this week.
I wish there was a way to copy the entire contents of a partition so I could easily re-install it as a whole rather than having to install from scratch.
Added Ubuntu 10.10 in dual boot and no problems.
I'm going to try Kororaa 14, PC-BSD and Gentoo 2011 later this week.
I wish there was a way to copy the entire contents of a partition so I could easily re-install it as a whole rather than having to install from scratch.
http://www.linuxliveusb.com/en/download