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Copernicus |
2012-10-30
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#921
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Originally Posted by marmistrz
I know my app is unusable in portrait, that's why I locked it into landscape to begin with!
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2012-10-30
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#922
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Originally Posted by Copernicus
Forced-rotation comes as disabled.
Sure, that's fine -- but it brings up another point. Just what userbase is the CSSU intended to serve? Certainly, devs and power users can enjoy it now; but this "debugging dev only" option seems likely to trip up novice users. You really need to do a lot of massaging of config files to get this "feature" working right. So, is this really meant to be the next "Seamless Software Update"?
It's just muppets that install all sorts and modify things they don't understand.
Your not going to fix this easily.
Yes, we all start as novices at some point.
From some of the stupid questions on here (many repeated over and over) you can tell the difference between a muppet and a genuine novice.
Originally Posted by marmistrz
So instead of having one text file to add package names, you will have to enter every apps .desktop file to test portrait support.
And if an user really wants it, he just edits .desktop
Originally Posted by Copernicus
Exactly. Agreed, Glad the question has been brought up.
Yeah, but if the user then wants to force the rotation of that app, they have to both turn the forcerotation on, and edit the .desktop file. Kind of a pain.
I guess that's my question -- is forced rotation still meant to be a debugging tool (so having lots of broken apps around when you turn it on is fine), or a feature (where you want all apps to work correctly)? It just doesn't seem designed efficiently for use as a feature...
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2012-10-30
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#923
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Originally Posted by sixwheeledbeast
Are you saying here that forced-rotation actually is just a debugging tool, and therefore not meant for general use?
Forced-rotation comes as disabled.
It's just muppets that install all sorts and modify things they don't understand.
The sense I'm getting from the discussion is that forced rotation is one of the most popular features of CSSU. Power users, novices, muppets, everybody -- the first thing they want to do with the CSSU is play with rotation.
Personally, I think it is unreasonable for us to assume that normal users of CSSU aren't going to want to turn on forced rotation. And as such, I'd prefer that it be already turned on, but only for those apps that benefit from it; rather than have it hidden away, and need significant configuration after being turned on to fix all the things it inevitably breaks...
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2012-10-30
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#924
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...something different now, maybe? Thanks! Who recompiled contacts-db? Opening call logs and messages is very quick now!
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2012-10-30
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#925
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Originally Posted by Copernicus
Yes. All be it used for the wrong purpose now.
Are you saying here that forced-rotation actually is just a debugging tool, and therefore not meant for general use?
Originally Posted by Copernicus
And... it clearly states on the CSSU wiki (or on a sub-page) that forced-rotation will be unstable and is a development tool.
The sense I'm getting from the discussion is that forced rotation is one of the most popular features of CSSU. Power users, novices, muppets, everybody -- the first thing they want to do with the CSSU is play with rotation.
Any application not working in portrait is not bug.
Originally Posted by Copernicus
I partially agree.
I'd prefer that it be already turned on, but only for those apps that benefit from it; rather than have it hidden away, and need significant configuration after being turned on to fix all the things it inevitably breaks...
I feel CSSU should act like stock Maemo PR1.3.
When forced-rotation is chosen to be enabled, it's forced-rotation is controlled, so only the apps benefit from it are forced.
This makes a better experience to user/muppet-land.
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2012-10-30
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#926
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How can I check what version is my phone on?
It seems that I f... up something & I can't get it to update...it even says that I don't have cssu installed & I've installed it.
When I try to update anything via x term I get: ": GPG error: https://downloads.maemo.nokia.com ./ Release: The following signatures were invalid: KEYEXPIRED 1349249546 KEYEXPIRED 1349249546 KEYEXPIRED 1349249546
W: GPG error: https://downloads.maemo.nokia.com ./ Release: The following signatures were invalid: KEYEXPIRED 1349249546 KEYEXPIRED 1349249546 KEYEXPIRED 1349249546
W: GPG error: https://downloads.maemo.nokia.com ./ Release: The following signatures were invalid: KEYEXPIRED 1349249546 KEYEXPIRED 1349249546 KEYEXPIRED 1349249546
W: GPG error: http://marmistrz.net63.net fremantle Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 9431AED09369EB78
W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
Nokia-N900:~#"
tnx in advance...
It seems that I f... up something & I can't get it to update...it even says that I don't have cssu installed & I've installed it.
When I try to update anything via x term I get: ": GPG error: https://downloads.maemo.nokia.com ./ Release: The following signatures were invalid: KEYEXPIRED 1349249546 KEYEXPIRED 1349249546 KEYEXPIRED 1349249546
W: GPG error: https://downloads.maemo.nokia.com ./ Release: The following signatures were invalid: KEYEXPIRED 1349249546 KEYEXPIRED 1349249546 KEYEXPIRED 1349249546
W: GPG error: https://downloads.maemo.nokia.com ./ Release: The following signatures were invalid: KEYEXPIRED 1349249546 KEYEXPIRED 1349249546 KEYEXPIRED 1349249546
W: GPG error: http://marmistrz.net63.net fremantle Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 9431AED09369EB78
W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
Nokia-N900:~#"
tnx in advance...
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2012-10-31
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#927
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Originally Posted by Copernicus
Are you sure you are not mixing the things? As CSSU comes with two "portraits":
Are you saying here that forced-rotation actually is just a debugging tool, and therefore not meant for general use?
The sense I'm getting from the discussion is that forced rotation is one of the most popular features of CSSU. Power users, novices, muppets, everybody -- the first thing they want to do with the CSSU is play with rotation.
Personally, I think it is unreasonable for us to assume that normal users of CSSU aren't going to want to turn on forced rotation. And as such, I'd prefer that it be already turned on, but only for those apps that benefit from it; rather than have it hidden away, and need significant configuration after being turned on to fix all the things it inevitably breaks...
1. Portrait mode support for hildon-desktop, task navigator and applications, which is disabled by default in -stable branch and needs to be explicitly enabled by the user
2. forced rotation, which is causing you the problems with pierogi
The first one is an officially supported feature, the second is not.
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720p video support on N900,SmartReflex on N900,Keyboard and mouse support on N900
Nothing is impossible - Stable thumb2 on n900
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2012-10-31
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Originally Posted by branja
USEFUL INFORMATION
How can I check what version is my phone on?
It seems that I f... up something & I can't get it to update...it even says that I don't have cssu installed & I've installed it.
When I try to update anything via x term I get: ": GPG error: https://downloads.maemo.nokia.com ./ Release: The following signatures were invalid: KEYEXPIRED 1349249546 KEYEXPIRED 1349249546 KEYEXPIRED 1349249546
W: GPG error: https://downloads.maemo.nokia.com ./ Release: The following signatures were invalid: KEYEXPIRED 1349249546 KEYEXPIRED 1349249546 KEYEXPIRED 1349249546
W: GPG error: https://downloads.maemo.nokia.com ./ Release: The following signatures were invalid: KEYEXPIRED 1349249546 KEYEXPIRED 1349249546 KEYEXPIRED 1349249546
W: GPG error: http://marmistrz.net63.net fremantle Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 9431AED09369EB78
W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
Nokia-N900:~#"
tnx in advance...
Kernel Version
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uname -r
Kernel Frequencies
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sudo kernel-config show
Should be 250-600Mhz, and SR VDD1 & 2 on with KP50>
OS Version
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Settings > About (Community SSU)
Latest CSSU Stable = 21.2011.38-1Smaemo4.1
The EXPIREDKEY has been covered in another thread and will not stop you updating.
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2012-10-31
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#929
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Originally Posted by branja
Google might be your friend sometimes
How can I check what version is my phone on?
It seems that I f... up something & I can't get it to update...it even says that I don't have cssu installed & I've installed it.
When I try to update anything via x term I get: ": GPG error: https://downloads.maemo.nokia.com ./ Release: The following signatures were invalid: KEYEXPIRED 1349249546 KEYEXPIRED 1349249546 KEYEXPIRED 1349249546
W: GPG error: https://downloads.maemo.nokia.com ./ Release: The following signatures were invalid: KEYEXPIRED 1349249546 KEYEXPIRED 1349249546 KEYEXPIRED 1349249546
W: GPG error: https://downloads.maemo.nokia.com ./ Release: The following signatures were invalid: KEYEXPIRED 1349249546 KEYEXPIRED 1349249546 KEYEXPIRED 1349249546
W: GPG error: http://marmistrz.net63.net fremantle Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 9431AED09369EB78
W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
Nokia-N900:~#"
tnx in advance...
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=87208
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720p video support on N900,SmartReflex on N900,Keyboard and mouse support on N900
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2012-10-31
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#930
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kernel: v52
Frequencies: I use it OCed on a daily basis. 500-900; VDD1 is 0, VDD2 is 1; ignore nice load is 0; threshhold is 85; sampling rate is 150000; powersave bias is 0...
OS version: PR1.3.1 = 21.2011.38-1
CSSU...the thing is, I don't have that in options. That is why I asked what is wrong with my device in the first place.
Also, when I tried to manage views on hildon desktop, it appears that I only have 4 backgrounds...& when I've tried to change something in the CSSU features it says ''warning: community ssu is not installed'' and I installed it a long time ago (CSSU testing, to be precise).
Frequencies: I use it OCed on a daily basis. 500-900; VDD1 is 0, VDD2 is 1; ignore nice load is 0; threshhold is 85; sampling rate is 150000; powersave bias is 0...
OS version: PR1.3.1 = 21.2011.38-1
CSSU...the thing is, I don't have that in options. That is why I asked what is wrong with my device in the first place.
Also, when I tried to manage views on hildon desktop, it appears that I only have 4 backgrounds...& when I've tried to change something in the CSSU features it says ''warning: community ssu is not installed'' and I installed it a long time ago (CSSU testing, to be precise).
