This is a deal breaker for me. I mean come on, an a multimedia device made by Apple that doesn't support STEREO wireless Bluetooth?

I hate having a wired headphones when listenig to music especialy if im going on a run or exersizing the last thing I want is the cord in my way.

My 3 year old Treo can handle it...

I'm paying $65 for EDGE speed and unlimited internet (Blackberry plan). $5 extra for 3G is actually looking very good. I believe I can get a further discount since I use At&t for cable, phone and internet. Hurray for self inflicted monopolies!

OK, this is off topic a bit, but reading all the comparisons you posted so far:

I'm starting to feel lucky not to live in the US. F**k, what prices are you guys happy with?

Here I get the cheapest 3G-phones (Nokia 6124 at the moment) for € 0,- and I don't even have to sign a new contract for this. It's just that they add bonus points to my account that will eventually translate into "You got a new phone for free - or a really good one very cheap" (usually every 12 months or so).
Nokia 6110 Navigator: GPS, 3G, S60, ... € 49,-

It really scares me to read what ppl pay for decent 3G phones elsewhere.

Whether the iPhone will have those apps will depend on one out of two methods..

1) Will Apple let it through their app store?
2) The user loads third party firmware and then loads the software from there (third party software is real nice. ).

If you suspect that Nokia has something to fear from todays news, how do you think it will feel if this speculation is based on good information - the iPhoMAX no less!

http://www.pocketables.net/2008/06/so-whens-the-wi.html

The "platinum and diamond dust" reference makes me wonder if the info is a bit tongue in cheek. Or is this a valid spec for a case material?

You mean the iPhoNEY?

Strange, I pay $60/mo ($40 for voice service and $20 for the unlimited data plan, and I guess all those stupid taxes and fees) through AT&T for my 3G crappo Samsung ZX-20. That was one of the things I had thought of when the iphone came out, was that I would have paid the same monthly fee. I can see why AT&T would want to charge more, but I don't think they actually would. Plus, I think they just finished a pretty big 3G rollout a month or so ago.

That said... Wow. Impressive upgrade, great price. Its very tempting, but if I bought one, I'd have to sell my 810. Not sure I want to do that, as I like the slide-out keyboard and all the other stuff it can do. I just wish it would have better PIM.

I don't think Nokia is the only one that would need to worry about this :

http://www.rcrnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll...15/CLASSIFIEDS

This is going to hurt the other carriers as well.

TomTom already has iPhone navigation software ready to roll

http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/09/t...ready-to-roll/

It all boils down to it not just being about the iphone but about the whole software ecosystem around it.

It's amazing to me that other companies don't realize that it's about the user experience and that providing a superior one will make their devices successful. Not only has apple done that but it's also built a nice software ecosystem around it with plenty of people and companies developing for the platform.

What does that translate to? Reliable software that works.

I, personally, would not have any problem paying for software that works and has reliable support. I'd even buy some for the tablets....(if it existed)

Anyhow, I don't know why I'm saying all this. We are all different in the way we look at devices...some people look at the spec sheet and let that be the end all be all...Apple has figured out that it's not about the specs and features but the usability and life cycle (in terms of usability) of a product.

This 3G iphone will be a hit. The people who choose not to upgrade will benefit from all the development going on for iphone 2.0 software...Apple definitely knows what it is doing.

my .02