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    Garage Battle | # 221 | 2007-10-02, 21:37 | Report

    well, a good example would be a a site like this:

    http://racingsouthwest.com/forums/lo...41794-250.html

    found it on the net browsing around. read it with the n800. click on a video while ur there. anything happen? nope?

    but for some reason on my archos 605 wifi, not only does the page load quickly, it scrolls smooth. if i click on a video link, it opens it full screen and caches the vid within 5 seconds.

    dont get me wrong, the n800 blows the archos away, but it shows me what is possible with more power and more memory. im not asking to play games on it, or to do photoshop. i want to browse the internet, just so happens the internet has pretty photos, videos, and flash content.

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    heavyt | # 222 | 2007-10-02, 21:54 | Report

    To me http://www.internettablettalk.com could stand some optimization. I find it slow to load completely, when compared to google, yahoo and others. Do others find this to be true?

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    cairn | # 223 | 2007-10-02, 22:05 | Report

    Originally Posted by heavyt View Post
    To me http://www.internettablettalk.com could stand some optimization. I find it slow to load completely, when compared to google, yahoo and others. Do others find this to be true?
    YES! Since buying my N800, I visit this site all the time both on my desktop computer and my IT. The site itself loads pretty quickly but I am unable to scroll down the page on the N800 until the add finishes loading and that takes FOREVER! I think it's a slow adserver causing the problem or maybe it's the way the N800 processes the ad. I have the same problem when trying to load Engadget; the site itself loads pretty quickly, but I have to wait for all the ads to load before I can scroll down the page.

    I'm really looking forward to adblocking on the N800.

    (PS: This thread has gone waaay off course, but it's a great discussion!)

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    Milhouse | # 224 | 2007-10-02, 22:06 | Report

    Originally Posted by heavyt View Post
    To me http://www.internettablettalk.com could stand some optimization. I find it slow to load completely, when compared to google, yahoo and others. Do others find this to be true?
    Yes I do, hence this request which seems to have fallen on deaf ears. While it's possible to view ITT on the NIT (in my case a N800) it's not pleasent, which is quite ironic in an unfortunate way. ITT is fine on a desktop though, so really I think we need a "lighter" mobile version optimised for NITs (the current mobile theme is far too basic as it's designed for a mobile phone with cr@p resolution/tiny screen - not really issues on NITs!)

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    Milhouse | # 225 | 2007-10-02, 22:10 | Report

    Originally Posted by cairn View Post
    YES! Since buying my N800, I visit this site all the time both on my desktop computer and my IT. The site itself loads pretty quickly but I am unable to scroll down the page on the N800 until the add finishes loading and that takes FOREVER! I think it's a slow adserver causing the problem or maybe it's the way the N800 processes the ad. I have the same problem when trying to load Engadget; the site itself loads pretty quickly, but I have to wait for all the ads to load before I can scroll down the page.

    I'm really looking forward to adblocking on the N800.

    (PS: This thread has gone waaay off course, but it's a great discussion!)
    I get the hanging problem in Micro-B when I click the "go to newest post" link (which is too small on NITs - another issue being ignored by Admin!) The page appears to load, then the browser hangs for several seconds - up to 30 seconds or so - and then finally the browser snaps to the correct place in the post (ie. the newest post). It seems like it may be a problem with anchor processing, or perhaps the rendering engine in Micro-b hogs the CPU and no longer listens to touchscreen/scroll events while it grinds it's way through the HTML. Either way, it's horribly unresponsive.

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    cairn | # 226 | 2007-10-02, 22:31 | Report

    Originally Posted by Milhouse View Post
    I get the hanging problem in Micro-B when I click the "go to newest post" link ...(clipped)(
    I should have mentioned that I am also using the MicroB browser and I get this problem too. Maybe when I get home today, I'll reflash with the updated firmware and go back to using Opera for a few days and see if I prefer the way it performs. I never was able to figure out how to be able to use both Opera and MicroB on my N800.

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    heavyt | # 227 | 2007-10-02, 22:34 | Report

    Originally Posted by Milhouse View Post
    Yes I do, hence this request which seems to have fallen on deaf ears...
    Thanks for the link.

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    EIPI | # 228 | 2007-10-02, 22:36 | Report

    I'm no electrical/computer type, but is there anything in the FCC filings to suggest that the new IT is 802.11N compatible? My current thought is that the new tablet has wifi-N and built in gps. Still optomistic that it also has WiMax.

    Trying to steer the thread back on course....

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    cairn | # 229 | 2007-10-02, 22:54 | Report

    Originally Posted by EIPI View Post
    I'm no electrical/computer type, but is there anything in the FCC filings to suggest that the new IT is 802.11N compatible? My current thought is that the new tablet has wifi-N and built in gps. Still optomistic that it also has WiMax.

    Trying to steer the thread back on course....
    The FCC only tested radiated emissions in the 2.4 GHz range which is 802.11b/g. I can't remember is draft-N requires operation in the 5GHz range or if it's optional (5GHz is 802.11a) but I know draft-N is supposed to be compatible with 802.11a. All I can say for sure is that unless the FCC docs are revised, this tablet will not operate in the 5GHz range and I think support for draft-N is unlikely at this point.

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    Milhouse | # 230 | 2007-10-02, 23:20 | Report

    Originally Posted by cairn View Post
    The FCC only tested radiated emissions in the 2.4 GHz range which is 802.11b/g. I can't remember is draft-N requires operation in the 5GHz range or if it's optional (5GHz is 802.11a) but I know draft-N is supposed to be compatible with 802.11a. All I can say for sure is that unless the FCC docs are revised, this tablet will not operate in the 5GHz range and I think support for draft-N is unlikely at this point.
    802.11n can us 2.4GHz or 5GHz, or both. 5GHz support is an optional component of the draft 11n standard and unlikely to be supported by most devices (routers or mobiles) due to the additional cost of the second radio and also the problems inherent with the 5GHz frequency (ie. limited penetration through walls). However, the 5GHz band is much less congested than 2.4GHz so dual radios may be implemented on "top end" devices.

    If 11n were present on the new Nokia device, I'd have expected to see some comment that 5GHz wasn't tested as it's not supported by the hardware then again I don't know the testing process so can only guess.

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