People are knocking these "iphone sites" because it has a "full browser"...

All I know is this, when I'm using my finger to browse, I prefer to tap nice large links and have everything easy to read, because when I'm sitting on a bus, I wouldn't want to have to click a zoom button and break out a stylus.

The remarks I've seen are not that simple. The point has been that dedicating sites to the iPhone (or any other device) tends to fly in the face of such devices possessing a full browser. Hence they should not need dedicated sites.

That of course applies to the N800 equally as well.

However, I personally diverge from that assessment because I think the web in general is filled with large, gaudy, busy, overloaded sites and could benefit from a revamp that takes mobility into account.

You have mirrored my exact thoughts, but a little more eloquently

I am tired of visiting websites that put a load on a 2ghz computer... why? It should just be text and graphics with some minimal back-end scripting.

Visit Gap.com, Nokia and recently, Apple's own site with built in quicktime videos.... I understand they want to enrich the web experience, but its terrible for mobile devices (which is where everything is going) and its really not necessary. Information is king, we don't need gaudy with bling!

A flash animation with sweaters flying across the screen with fall sale schema isn't going to help me find what I need... Instead of presenting me with clear and concise information, we get longer load times and useless animation. I just want to buy some damn khakis!

how exactly is the browser in the iPhone and iTouch more advanced than the mozilla based browser on the n800?

It zooms and scrolls pretty. That's about it.

Does the IPhone has a flash plugin allready?

The iPhone browser shares basically the same render engine and features with the S60 phone browsers. "It zooms and scrolls pretty" is somewhat accurate, actually. The UI layer on top of the browser core is very smooth and refined, as is with all the iPhone applications. So feature-wise the browser is really no more advanced than the S60 phone browsers, but the UI makes up for that.

No, there isn't one and they won't be getting one, which is the reason why Apple has the Youtube app and had them reencode all their videos into a different format.

For some reason, people seems to go for visible bling over invisible features. And as long as that goes on, apple and ilk will win.

Im not saying they make good products, but they are for some reason over-hyped. Just look at the press cover a fart from apple gets in mainstream media vs just about any other corp in the tech biz.

Final Answer: "Applications 1-20 of 2000"

This morning, Apple's App Store just reached 2000 Web Apps.