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2007-10-17 , 21:59
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#61
Originally Posted by arman68 View Post
As for the D-Pad on the slider, it just does not make sense: this means everytime I need to use, I would have to pop out the keyboard!
Actually it does make sense. The dpad is in proximity to the keyboard, as it should be.

There are alternative ways to accomplish what the dpad did on the touchscreen. Not a worse way of doing things, just different.
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2007-10-17 , 22:11
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#62
Good thing they integrated built in GPS and maps, I really thought Navicore for the n800 was much too expensive.

Anyone know what OS2008 will bring to the n800?
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2007-10-17 , 22:18
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#63
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Yeah...
Here I was, making the impossible to gather some money to buy the N800 in the end of the year, and now here comes an optimized version that costs twice more! I can't believe how much this is twisting my head.

If the OS2008 does indeed allow the N800 to do the 400MHz... then the other "new features" are not important enough to pay double what the N800 is now selling for EVEN IF YOU DON'T HAVE EITHER AT THE MOMENT. (BTW... all indicators show that the CPU WILL INDEED do 400Mhz on the N800.)

Many if not ALL of the new software features will also be supported by the N800 when the OS2008 update is available. So... it appears that there are several advantages FOR SOME PEOPLE to getting the N800 over the N810.

ADVANTAGES OF THE N800:
1. It is available right now.
2. Price. (Currently $220-ish?)
3. Uses 2x regular SDHC cards.
4. NO slideout keyboard.
5. NO GPS.

Please note my last 2 "advantages". I personally deem them advantages for several reasons: There is no way they can run the GPS and NOT reduce the battery life. Ditto on the lighted keyboard. In addition I worry about the slide mechanism. One more thing to go bad on the unit. I was worried I would "want" a real keyboard when I bought the N800. I now know that I don't want or need it. If I planned on using the unit to send a lot of e-mails then it might be nice; since I don't it isn't. (And it certainly isn't worth $240.00 MORE.)
 
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2007-10-17 , 22:33
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#64
Hardware wise I think the new N810 is 100% on the money.

If the software is good enough to match it, I'll pony up one more time.

I need smooth finger scrolling, good h.264 playback so I can enjoy all my iPhone/iPod formated videos, and hopefully a good port of modest mail. The browser experience was respectable, but painfully held back by sluggishness and lack of "snap" if you know what I mean.

I've gotten used to "flicking" around the pages on my iPhone, so if I have to give that up, I at least want it to be smooth in ITOS 2008. Here's hoping there is more polish this time around... I will await reviews before I even think about spending $479
 
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2007-10-17 , 22:54
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#65
is the gps receiver sirfstariii?
will it come preloaded with maps and gps software?

although i use it infrequently i like the rotating camera on my 800 for taking photos (and videos with recorded sound).

as far as gripes go: my own personal gripe is that the n810 does not have an 8 led flashlight capability and red laser pointer. and i wish it was waterproof, so i can have photos of me voiping while snorkeling. (i'll just have to continue to use those zippered baggies, though people will continue to make fun of me)

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2007-10-17 , 22:59
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Originally Posted by keithlm View Post
If the OS2008 does indeed allow the N800 to do the 400MHz... then the other "new features" are not important enough to pay double what the N800 is now selling for EVEN IF YOU DON'T HAVE EITHER AT THE MOMENT. (BTW... all indicators show that the CPU WILL INDEED do 400Mhz on the N800.)

Many if not ALL of the new software features will also be supported by the N800 when the OS2008 update is available. So... it appears that there are several advantages FOR SOME PEOPLE to getting the N800 over the N810.

ADVANTAGES OF THE N800:
1. It is available right now.
2. Price. (Currently $220-ish?)
3. Uses 2x regular SDHC cards.
4. NO slideout keyboard.
5. NO GPS.

Please note my last 2 "advantages". I personally deem them advantages for several reasons: There is no way they can run the GPS and NOT reduce the battery life. Ditto on the lighted keyboard. In addition I worry about the slide mechanism. One more thing to go bad on the unit. I was worried I would "want" a real keyboard when I bought the N800. I now know that I don't want or need it. If I planned on using the unit to send a lot of e-mails then it might be nice; since I don't it isn't. (And it certainly isn't worth $240.00 MORE.)
I couldn't agree more with this thinking. I only wish more decisions in my life could be made as easy as this one is for me. I don't want or need GPS; I don't need any keyboard more than my current use of either SSH or Frogpad; I don't want to sacrifice my current considerable investment in SDHC flash cards; and I need the ready availability of the dpad for operating my multi-boot menu on booting up. I just hope that what Texrat says (or implies) is true -- that the N810 is being marketed as a supplement to the N800, and not intended as a replacement for it. And that the N800 will continue to benefit from software upgrades into the foreseeable future.
 
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2007-10-17 , 22:59
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#67
Originally Posted by Texrat View Post
Actually it does make sense. The dpad is in proximity to the keyboard, as it should be.

There are alternative ways to accomplish what the dpad did on the touchscreen. Not a worse way of doing things, just different.
Is that going to be different than how it's done on the N800? Because whether it's finger drag scrolling, stylus drag scrolling, or stylus scroll bar scrolling, the dpad is much faster and easier to use, IMO. Which is why I stopped doing the other 3 methods.

(and finger scroll bar scrolling is too difficult to attempt)

So, unless the N810's interface is somehow different in this regard, using the touch screen wont be an acceptable substitute. I'll probably always have the keyboard open.

Plus, as I've harped on many times, the slide out keyboard is not a good ergonomic design. The N800's dpad is in a VERY good position for thumb position. The N810's couldn't be in a worse place, for thumb position, than where it is.
 
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2007-10-18 , 01:19
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#68
johnkzin,

if you are not desperate for a qwerty keypad and can live without GPS, stick to N800 and be happy.

And as for all of the other people, I think the N800 and N810 pair gives an awesome selection/choise: super cheap N800 if you don't need those couple of additions, and the N810 if you do. Simple, clear cut, fairly priced. Nice. IMO.
 
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2007-10-18 , 01:42
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#69
So N800 vs N810

I can do without the QWERTY keyboard and the GPS. N800 costs me about 260€. I'm guessing N810 would cost me about 200€ more.

What else would that extra 200€ give me.

*20% brighter screen
*1500mAh battery instead of 1300mAh one (what would this translate to in hours?)
*faster cpu or are they going to 'un unclock' the one in N800 with the OS 2008 update?
*2GB storage.. I guess 2GB card costs about 20€ so I just add it to the price so 280€ for N800 and 460€ for N810
*smaller size

Is that all? For 180€ more? I can't really decide. I guess one of the problems is that I'm not quite sure what exactly I'll use the device for. One thing I know for certain is that I'll read ebooks with it. Sure I guess I'll also browse the internet with it. I guess taking notes would be pretty pointless with either of these devices. I mean they're just too slow to type with, even with the QWERTY keyboard. Would be nice if the device was able to play divx movies without any re-encoding or something but I guess that's just not possible..

Any thoughts?
 
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There not slow to type with. I can type at good speeds on my N800's thumgkeyboard. I must admit. I'm quite torn apart by this device. On the one side there is GPS. That really is a nice thing. But than there is storage capacity.... That's a show stopper for me. One MiniSD card? :/
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