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2007-12-03
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In this day and age, I don't see how anyone can get anything like an adequate viewing experience watching a tiny screen, especially if they are watching something designed for a big screen. Sound, yes. Textra, ok. Cartoons, yes. But movies? You aren't seeing the movie; you are seeing something else--the Reader's Digest condensed version.
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2007-12-03
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#23
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As I said - this is about taste, and we can't really argue about it.
I watch 99% TV/DVD-ripped documentaries on my PMP, though. With varying quality. I want to watch them on the go because I find them interesting and educational, and picture quality isn't the most important thing. Big screen movie experiences I get at the cinema or on my CRT projector at home.
I watch 99% TV/DVD-ripped documentaries on my PMP, though. With varying quality. I want to watch them on the go because I find them interesting and educational, and picture quality isn't the most important thing. Big screen movie experiences I get at the cinema or on my CRT projector at home.
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2007-12-03
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Originally Posted by Diztinct
For a non-dedicated device (i.e. something without a lot of dedicated hardware), this isn't really a realistic expectation. As computers get faster, storage gets bigger, and bandwidth gets cheaper the quality of video content will go up, and the best desktop performance will always exceed the best portable performance.
I guess it's just a matter of taste and difficult to argue for or against. I just want to be able to plug my PMP to my computer (or connect via Wifi, even) and copy or watch more or less whatever video I want from my archive. I don't want to have to "plan ahead" or wait for transcoding. I just don't think that should be needed in this day and age
Still, wait for the N900, things are guaranteed to be better, and I'm nearly certain standard divx stuff will play back with ease on its hardware.
Originally Posted by Diztinct
No, and it's "770".
Is the N770 better as a PMP then?
Originally Posted by geneven
What the hell else am I going to take with me on the plane? Or on campus? Or during lunch at work? A laptop? Pish, why even bother with the N800, then. There's a lot to be said for the "HD Experience", but a decent pair of headphones and my N800 is plenty fine for me.
But movies? You aren't seeing the movie; you are seeing something else--the Reader's Digest condensed version.
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2007-12-03
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What I read was this:
"If we estimate bus performance on Nokia 770, it is ~55MB/s and is more than
enough to display 800x480 sized video frames with 30 fps."
"Looks like graphics bus on N800 is 3x slower than on Nokia 770. It might
be caused by inefficient framebuffer driver implementation in its initial
revision. But if it is a hardware issue, getting normal video playback at
native framerate may be troublesome."
http://lists.maemo.org/pipermail//ma...ch/009133.html
"If we estimate bus performance on Nokia 770, it is ~55MB/s and is more than
enough to display 800x480 sized video frames with 30 fps."
"Looks like graphics bus on N800 is 3x slower than on Nokia 770. It might
be caused by inefficient framebuffer driver implementation in its initial
revision. But if it is a hardware issue, getting normal video playback at
native framerate may be troublesome."
http://lists.maemo.org/pipermail//ma...ch/009133.html
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2007-12-03
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#26
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I watch moveis and other videos on my N800 all the time and I'm quite happy with the video & sound quality. More than half the use my N800 gets is playing Video or music (mp3 and rhapsody).
With mplayer I have been able to watch most videos with out any conversion.
With mplayer I have been able to watch most videos with out any conversion.
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2007-12-03
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Originally Posted by Diztinct
Did they fix the bandwidth problem in the N810? or is it still like the N800? I haven't checked the specs but it must be better?
I read that the N800 apparantly has like a third of the video bandwidth of the N770, and that's a reason that it can't play video that well. If this limit depends on hardware or bad drivers wasn't really clear.
Is the N770 better as a PMP then?
Also, what about the last question above? Is the 770 better than the N800 or worse because the N800 has a better screen? (Or noboby really cares - they are about the same
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2007-12-03
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@ "Almost there!" (Monte Christo, Count of)
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#28
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Originally Posted by XL1200c
I was quite happy with the video playback of my N800 -- until I played my first movie on my Pepper Pad 3 and noticed what is possible on such a screen with the right (optimized) hardware.
I watch moveis and other videos on my N800 all the time and I'm quite happy with the video & sound quality. More than half the use my N800 gets is playing Video or music (mp3 and rhapsody).
With mplayer I have been able to watch most videos with out any conversion.
It's quite clear Nokia took the easy way out with the Itablets, thinking people would prefer the twenty bucks saved over decent playback. I wouldn't be surprized if they're astroturfing some of these threads, trying to convince people the Itablets "aren't meant for video playback".
Mind you, all things considered, I'm still taking my N800 on the road for watching video, but the Pepper is bloody much better at it.
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2007-12-03
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#29
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Originally Posted by geneven
Hold it closer to your eyes, it instantly appears bigger!
I don't see how anyone can get anything like an adequate viewing experience watching a tiny screen
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2007-12-03
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Originally Posted by dblank
ROTFLMAO!!!!
Hold it closer to your eyes, it instantly appears bigger!
The Cowon D2 got me really interested, but then I read that it doesnt play that many codecs and require transcoding. And as I've written - that's a no-no for me.
I guess it's just a matter of taste and difficult to argue for or against. I just want to be able to plug my PMP to my computer (or connect via Wifi, even) and copy or watch more or less whatever video I want from my archive. I don't want to have to "plan ahead" or wait for transcoding. I just don't think that should be needed in this day and age
I read that the N800 apparantly has like a third of the video bandwidth of the N770, and that's a reason that it can't play video that well. If this limit depends on hardware or bad drivers wasn't really clear.
Is the N770 better as a PMP then?