Guys,

Here is a photo of my setup.
Dan

Wow! That's scary!

My vote is one thumb up. I'll keep the upgrade, but if you are a business user with os2007 working, I suggest you wait. The whole package should be ready to use, and it's not.

If the os upgrade came with a fact sheet about the interface changes it might have made the transition easier.

I am disappointed by the lack of basic business apps. We need an openoffice port, or at least ms word excel and pdf compatible file viewing, and a stable email app.

And I'm a user, not a linux hobbyist. There are just too many productvity barriers with os2008 right now.

But the os is faster. Microb is better now. It's not worth the bother to switch back.

--PK---

I agree.

I have my "remote server toolkit" running OK with VNC and gFTP. (Can't get Autoscan to come up). And I like the FM remote MS networking! Wish I could do more GUI network analysis...

But my "office" (why I bought the unit) is Skype and web browsing to my server page for email...I NEED an excel and a doc reader and can get neither antiword, amiword? or gnumeric to work. (Even my phone does that).

It would seem that porting MS basic business files would be a good business decision for Nokia. I dont need to port Contacts, not that an Outlook interface wouldnt be nice.

And how can I reduce the menu size, like in 2007? Its way to big and busy for me.

I have no time for games or entertainment. I can afford big-gun toys there.
my 2 c's

I was two thumbs up now I'm all thumbs and toes.

The thing that I've learned in the last several months of using this little monster is that it is a child growing and you have to be patient and let it grow. It's not leading edge technology it's bleeding edge technology and you have to be patient.

I originally bought my n800 for entertainment purposes to browse the web, check email, and play movies and music. It originally did all those things badly. If like me you are not a linux person or programmer, hacker, etc... you were left with a toy with tons of potential. Then os2008 came out in December and the growth of the n800's capabilities has been astounding. The web now actually works on all websites. Flash sites, youtube, etc... all are working the way they did on my computer. Movies and music play almost flawlessly on the updated media player. I take a lot of pictures and the image viewer that comes with the n800 needed help. Then last week I discovered Quiver image viewer. It's like a mini photoshop without all the complicated menus and needless and expensive add on's. The email was so flawled when I bought it that I just never bothered using it. The new os2008 allows me to receive and send emails via any of my personal or corporate email accounts. I'll wait till they get the calendar and contacts redone before I use them. Same goes for Skype (GoogleTalk does great video and chats for now). WiFi abroad is scarce, but with my new travel wireless router I have wifi everywhere in my hotel room and down the hall for about 100 feet. Most hotels will have ethernet ports but not wifi. I can't wait to use Gizmo on my next hotel trip abroad. Free international calls and chats from my hotel room for the low price of an internet connection(compared to hotel and cellphone international phone rates). Next up is using my n800 as a remote control around the house and car. I've read some amazing threads here about how to do it and I will slowly give it a whirl.

Personally I don't want all those MS programs cluttering up the simple and lite app's that the n800 was designed for. Nokia did not intend this to be a replacement for a desktop nor laptop. To me the most effective and simple way of porting those large, dinosaur programs the business user wants without destroying the original purpose of the IT is to port them to an sdhc card that uses something like Mojopac to control them. This way the n800 processor is not taxed nor is the memory chained to those cumbersome programs. I would much rather have the n800 software remain light and change the way we compute. I would add more antennas, maybe a low power satellite chip(developed for cellphones, but never released), stronger graphics card that doesn't take away from the batteries power, OLED screen at 1920x1080i, HDMI port(I think I can do that now with my USB hub ), 4 sdhc slots instead of two, a bigger battery, a 10-12mp camera with zoom(keep the roating lens that n800 has), a pico projector, a sim card slot for cell phone use(although with Gizmo, Grandcentral, and others I see the end of the cellphone). I have always disliked CD/DVD's(terrible for travel) and the n800 and others like it are going to put the final nail on their coffins just like the ipod did it to the music industry. If you look at my last post on this thread I followed the instructions on how to setup USB host and external HD. I now have an n800 with a working USB port and the tiniest powered USB hub. Now it doesn't look like much but, I can now use my sony memory card and load and view my pictures on my n800. I don't have to carry a laptop with me or try to find a computer in a foreign country that will allow me to load a memory card without getting administrative permission. I can also watch my movies from the cards on the hub and not drain the memory, cpu or batteries. When I upgrade my sdhc cards to 32gb I will have over 190gb of high speed class six flash for a couple of hundred dollars(they want upwards of $10,000 for that much flash on a regular computer). The great thing is that my old cards will still be useful.

Yes it's frustrating and annoying that these app's are not fully formed at times, or they have bugs or they are in development, but their FREE and customizable! If you don't like the way an app works you can change it to your liking. Try that with Apple or Microsoft. The app's also don't spy on you and send all your data to a company that will sell it to anyone and everyone who will pay their price. I have not purchased or used a Microsoft product in two years. I've made it a point this year to do the same with Apple.

If you want to really experience the n800 you have to participate in it's development. In your free time(which I have none because I'm always flying somewhere) read threads that interest you and get your hands dirty by actually installing a difficult app. Lot's and lot's of ITT users will be there to help you and who knows you might just get an idea for a new app that revolutionizes the computer world though you won't make a penny because it's linux. lol, Dan

mojopac is for xp. how do you use it on linux?

Amkaos,

Mojopacs website says they are developing a version for linux as well as Mac. Also Ubuntu linux forums are saying that a Ubuntu sdhc version similar to the Ubuntu version for the EEE PC is being readied. I can't wait because then I will have a more powerful, lite and flexible n800.

Has anyone tried PyAno? It's a fun little app that let's you play a mini piano on the n800. lol, Dan

I think we're missing a HUGE point here:

Nokia designed the iT as a mobile Internet device, not a sub-notebook, not a UMPC and certainly not a notebook replacement.

They designed and optimized the UI and performance and the hardware for the following purposes:

1. Web browsing - hence microB, with Flash support for a really decent browsing experience for over 95% of the sites out there today.

2. Email - the built-in app has some issues, but modest should sort that out once the good General is done with it. In the meantime, I've got Gmail in all its AJAX glory. No complaints here.

3. Online media playback - internet radio, podcasts, last.fm. I couldn't ask for more. Except maybe less packet loss from my office LAN, but that's not Nokia's fault. Vagalume could do with a larger buffer though...

4. Offline media playback - it plays most of the file formats that I use. I encoded a nice bunch of clips (Jeff Dunham's Achmed the Dead Terrorist clips), anime series (Bleach / Initial D) and movies (Independence Day). I have over 15 albums of my favourite music, and Canola 2 plays them back with style

5. Internet Communications - VoIP and IM. Skype, Gizmo and the built-in apps get the job done well. Works as promised.

Nokia has never marketed the iT as anything else, and certainly never meant for it to be used for document generation and all the resource-hungry purposes that so many people are trying to get working on the device.

One does not buy an Armani suit and then try to use it for skydiving or ice hockey, and then go around complaining that it rips too easily and stains don't come off it, and that it's too expensive for what it is.

Remember the iT for what it was built for. If it does anything beyond what it is touted to do, that's a bonus. If it doesn't, then someone bought the wrong device

The N8x0 is an Internet tablet. That what it was built for

Whoa! Whoa! Whoa! Don't throw any of that gratitude or attribution over my direction. I'm just a shill and a forum troll!

The awesome folk over in the right-hand column here are the ones you should be giving your love and appreciation to.

I am almost 100% agree with your comments, except for the email part. Emails use to have attachments, and if you're unable to "see" the attachments (note that I am saying only "see") the email functionality is limited.