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waw | # 261 | 2008-02-04, 00:55 | Report

Dear penguinbait, to be honest, I wasn't expecting it to be that easy when I started following your short guide for installing kde on my n810... Thank you!

And now some questions:

1. I followed the "donate" link and it leads to tablethacker.com. Is that you?

2. is there any "make it run faster" guide for disabling lets say "useless" startup apps?

3. how can I tell if an app I want to install is compatible with my KDE installation? Can I use (any) generally available apps, or am I stack to the limited maemo repositories?

4. (I know this is off-topic, please ignore it if it can not be answered easily). What about internationalisation? I am Greek, so I went K/control center/regional & accessibility/country-region & language. I select country "Greece" and I can read proper greek characters in konqueror and koffice opening OOo 2.3.1 spreds, but when I press "add language" I can find only "US English" available. That makes the keyboard selector at the taskbar useless and I have no way to enter greek characters.

Minor comment: it seems like when I logoff from kde, the click sound that I was hearing when tapping on the screen is canceled.

Thanks again!

penguinbait | # 262 | 2008-02-04, 01:13 | Report

Originally Posted by Jupex View Post

I tried this and the step 1 went fine. Then there came errors stating that some packadges could not install / upgrade. And I could not remove them from app manager. Then I flashed the device to factory defaults, but it still says the same.

I have the newest build of the os installed. What the heck am I doign wrong here? I downloaded all needed files, and tried to install them in correct order. Help me please

When you install and it fails, open tools > log (in the application manager menu)

what does it say? paste the output here and we'll figure out what wrong..

penguinbait | # 263 | 2008-02-04, 01:27 | Report

Originally Posted by waw View Post

Dear penguinbait, to be honest, I wasn't expecting it to be that easy when I started following your short guide for installing kde on my n810... Thank you!

And now some questions:

1. I followed the "donate" link and it leads to tablethacker.com. Is that you? (Yes this is me penguinbait http://tablethacker.com/kde.html )

2. is there any "make it run faster" guide for disabling lets say "useless" startup apps?
Like what? If there is something starting on boot and you dont want it to, boot up KDE, turn off app, open KDE menu, and click "save session" now it wont start on boot anymore.

3. how can I tell if an app I want to install is compatible with my KDE installation? Can I use (any) generally available apps, or am I stack to the limited maemo repositories?
Well, only apps available for the tablet can be installed. KDE apps as every other app would need to be compiled for ARMEL to be available on this platform.

4. (I know this is off-topic, please ignore it if it can not be answered easily). What about internationalisation? I am Greek, so I went K/control center/regional & accessibility/country-region & language. I select country "Greece" and I can read proper greek characters in konqueror and koffice opening OOo 2.3.1 spreds, but when I press "add language" I can find only "US English" available. That makes the keyboard selector at the taskbar useless and I have no way to enter greek characters.

I am not sure, I really dont know, perhaps we should open a thread and see if anyone has solved this, I unfortunately am an ignorant american, and only know one language, which makes that somewhat less compelling to debug. I will do some looking around, anyone anyone??

Minor comment: it seems like when I logoff from kde, the click sound that I was hearing when tapping on the screen is canceled.
Yes, it was happening occaisionally to me but not every time, not sure how to fix besides reboot?
Thanks again!

Glad you had a easy install, and your enjoying KDE..

WFT | # 264 | 2008-02-04, 15:23 | Report

Thanks to all for the efforts to simplify this process. For me however I have trouble just keeping up with all the lingo and concepts. Will it ever be possible in the future that installing KDE can be made as easy as installing a regular application ("click here to download and install") or is the very nature of this undertaking something that can only be done with a series of downloads, internal tweaking and steps? Just wondering because it sure looks nice but there is no way I would get through this myself.

penguinbait | # 265 | 2008-02-04, 19:21 | Report

Originally Posted by WFT View Post

Thanks to all for the efforts to simplify this process. For me however I have trouble just keeping up with all the lingo and concepts. Will it ever be possible in the future that installing KDE can be made as easy as installing a regular application ("click here to download and install") or is the very nature of this undertaking something that can only be done with a series of downloads, internal tweaking and steps? Just wondering because it sure looks nice but there is no way I would get through this myself.

It will never be just a single deb, unless you are willing to install it on the command line. When I make a 300MB DEB the appliation manager won't install it, but dpkg -i will.

So, there will always be a small process to step through...

Just to be clear, if you follow the instructions, and do some reading of the entire post, ask any questions you have before you start, if you have any. its a matter of installing (clicking on) three debs. But you have to do some setup prior.

I will attempt to fix some of the problems people had with the next release, but things are slow going, I got my wisdom teeth pulled a week ago, and I flipped and totaled my car 6 days ago, so it may be a few more weeks before a new deb version will be available.

Mike Anthony | # 266 | 2008-02-04, 23:28 | Report

Hello Team,
Great work being done here. I have KDE running great but have run into an issue which may be related to the compile. When running KDE on both the N800 and N810 I have noticed that the "Stock" graphical keyboard doesn't work. So under KDE's utility menu I selected KDKBD as a substitute. I noticed that it is missing the numerals below the function key. Is there a work around for this situation? For the N810, I have the hardware keyboard, but on the N800 this isn't an option.
Thank You and keep up the great work gang.

penguinbait | # 267 | 2008-02-05, 02:29 | Report

Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

Hello Team,
Great work being done here. I have KDE running great but have run into an issue which may be related to the compile. When running KDE on both the N800 and N810 I have noticed that the "Stock" graphical keyboard doesn't work. So under KDE's utility menu I selected KDKBD as a substitute. I noticed that it is missing the numerals below the function key. Is there a work around for this situation? For the N810, I have the hardware keyboard, but on the N800 this isn't an option.
Thank You and keep up the great work gang.

Check this thread
http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...ad.php?t=15565

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PinCushionQueen | # 268 | 2008-02-06, 14:13 | Report

Originally Posted by penguinbait View Post

I will attempt to fix some of the problems people had with the next release, but things are slow going, I got my wisdom teeth pulled a week ago, and I flipped and totaled my car 6 days ago, so it may be a few more weeks before a new deb version will be available.

OMG! I can't believe that you flipped your car too! Thank goodness you're OK! Did you break anything? I sincerely hope your recovery from all of this is speedy.

Take care.

Greyghost | # 269 | 2008-02-06, 15:29 | Report

PB, so sorry to hear about the auto accident. I do hope you are ok. Best wishes, p.

WFT | # 270 | 2008-02-06, 16:41 | Report

PENGUINBAIT:

I am taking you up on your generous offer of support before I try this (in order to avoid killing my 810). I have further simplified your instructions just to make sure I do not screw this up:

You want me to get a SD Card with (at least) 2 GB on it. I have a Micro 2 GB card and can move the stuff off it so it is empty. I then copy the following 8 files to that card:

http://www.tablethacker.com/software/local-mmc1.deb
http://www.tablethacker.com/software/kde-3.5.8-mmc1.deb
http://www.tablethacker.com/software/kdesup-3.5.8.deb
http://www.tablethacker.com/software/KDE358.tar.bz2
http://www.tablethacker.com/software/local-mmc2.deb
http://www.tablethacker.com/software/kde-3.5.8-mmc2.deb
http://www.tablethacker.com/software/kdesup-3.5.8.deb
http://www.tablethacker.com/software/KDE358.tar.bz2

I then verify (only) the size of 6 of those files:

308317552 KDE358.tar.bz2
308126 kde-3.5.8-mmc1.deb
308122 kde-3.5.8-mmc2.deb
21260684 kdesup-3.5.8.deb
510560 local-mmc1.deb
510548 local-mmc2.deb

I then insert the Micro SD card into the slot and install 6 files in the SD Card in this order:

local-mmc1.deb
kde-3.5.8-mmc1.deb
kdesup-3.5.8.deb
local-mmc2.deb
kde-3.5.8-mmc2.deb
kdesup-3.5.8.deb

I then start KDE from extras menu.

I can then delete which (all?) of the original 8 files I put on the Micro SD card in the first instance?

Have I got this right, it sounds straight forward? I hope to hear back from you and thanks in advance.