GeneralAntilles | # 211 | 2008-07-15, 19:01 | Report

Erm, turn both volume and brightness to zero. They both have fan/semi-circle shaped gray transparent backgrounds.

Again, what's actually the issue here (aside from Nokia's default setup not agreeing with some themes). Is there a bug in the brightness icon set, or do we just not like the theme? If it's the latter, feel free to make yourself a new one. The current default is finalized.

Benson | # 212 | 2008-07-15, 19:16 | Report

The issue, I think, is just not liking the advanced-backlight-statusbar-applet's default theme, because, like Nokia's sound-applet theme, it's ugly in combination with certain themes. Pardon me, it seems I've been misrepresenting allnameswereout here, by going off my flawed memory. I'd consider it a bug, at this point.

I'll get a screenshot here, though...

Man, my memory is miscalibrated. (I did remember seeing it look ugly with light themes, but misremembered the reason.) It's about that black bar in the middle of the icon. Barring some good reason for that not being either fully transparent or transparent gray, I'd call it a bug. (Though not very important; seems like it would be reasonable to sit on it till someone submits a fixed icon set.)

Ok, see what I mean about the brightness applet? The Nokia one is a thermometer-style, no rays (or, consequently, shading) in evidence.

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GeneralAntilles | # 213 | 2008-07-15, 19:23 | Report

The dark gray bar, eh? Well, I've used a number of light backgrounds and I can't say that it's ever bothered me. If somebody wants to rework that set, feel free, but it's not something I'll be fixing.

allnameswereout | # 214 | 2008-07-16, 12:08 | Report

Yes, that screenshot describes it well.

Its a design mistake. By default, all the icons are harmonious: they are white, and blend in with any theme nicely. I'm not a usability expect, but I know enough about usability to know the issue.

But I today noticed there is a hildon theme. This one should be the default, because it is more harmonious with the other default icons.

rm_you | # 215 | 2008-07-16, 18:59 | Report

We made the decision to continue using the "Default" (we never came up with a unique name for it) iconset because it is more iconic of the project (as it was the original iconset) and, I believe, is much nicer looking than the original Hildon backlight/volume icons. That is just a personal preference though, but that is exactly why there are themes.

If you don't like it, choose a different one, or make your own! If you make and submit an iconset, chances are very high we will add it to the next release if you post a tar/zip here or talk to us about it in IRC.

That said, I had already noticed and been slightly frustrated with that black bar myself, and I may fix it and commit a patch soon, as you are correct, it really doesn't need to be (or look good being) that stark of a contrast.

Actually, if we receive a few more iconsets, we may have to release a separate package (advanced-backlight-icons) containing the extra themes, as they are starting to accumulate.

Laughing Man | # 216 | 2008-07-16, 23:24 | Report

So... nobody else have that issue I have? (where the advanced blacklight statusbar applet shows 0 values for both brightness and icon on OS boot or desktop reset (yet this has no effect on the actual performance. Example: It may show 0 volume but the volume will still be 100. Same for brightness).

Then once I click the icon, it brings up the menu and the icon is fixed (shows proper values). Though like I said, this is just an astethics issue.

allnameswereout | # 217 | 2008-07-17, 00:34 | Report

Thanks for admitting the black line aesthetic issue. Yes, I do prefer the Hildon theme, but even then, the default one with its dark grey line has this issue. I copied the PNGs over, and checked out with the GIMP and noticed 2 colours: very dark grey, and dark grey () but I wasn't sure what colour I should use as replacement (transparent or white), and I think I was using the wrong editting software.

Laughing Man: I do have that issue as well.

rm_you | # 218 | 2008-07-17, 01:03 | Report

Sorry, haven't gotten around to mentioning that this was fixed already in 0.12, since we never got around to making that release public.

Laughing Man | # 219 | 2008-07-17, 01:08 | Report

Ah ok, thanks for the notice. (I was just wondering if anyone else experienced it and if so anyone else notice it. :P).

Benson | # 220 | 2008-07-17, 14:29 | Report

Ah, explains the non-reproducability here; I thought I'd remembered it, but couldn't get it to happen. (That's what I get for running extras-devel !)

Edit: Oh, BTW, I was kinda looking at fixing the icon issue, too. But I was going to do it more generically; I'm thinking making a script using imagemagick or netpbm to compose the 42 (6x7) images from 14 (6+7+static background) images. Since this requires excessive dependencies (and reduces flexibility), I don't expect you're interested in having it as part of the build process, but it could be useful for artists (and folks like me) creating icon sets. That also makes it easier to fix the bar issue. For that fix, I suppose one could batch process all 42 with imagemagick/netpbm to clear/fill that rectangle; but I'm happier generalizing. If anyone's interested in this, say so, and I might have it today or tomorrow... comments welcome, too.

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