Texrat | # 111 | 2008-02-27, 16:10 | Report

I considered that before posting, but also consider:

-people understand that the products will progressively improve. I revealed no secrets there

-price differences will always be a factor in purchasing decisions. Enough said.

-some people won't wait.

-some people won't need all the bells and whistles of future versions

-etc etc etc

So, no, I don't think I killed a single sale... especially not by 2/3 of the posters!

GeneralAntilles | # 112 | 2008-02-27, 16:24 | Report

Anybody who's paying attention knows that we're due for a generational upgrade and also knows that the WiMAX tablet wont be it.

So, no, I don't believe Texrat killed any sales.

brontide | # 113 | 2008-02-27, 16:26 | Report

I too believe that the NIT's are an evolutionary product, but.... there needs to be more "out of the box" compatibility and low barriers to entry. This does not stop the geek from making the device into everything it can be, but it does stop the average user dead in their tracks. The community oversells the device as "can do anything" and that can be really frustrating to the end users when 3rd party software is buggy or incomplete. My first attempt to use the 770 platform went down in flames because short of pidgin (which was buggy but functional) and opera nothing else I tried seemed to work correctly and that included media players, pim apps to sync w/gcal, and a few others. At the time gmail did not support IMAP either so there was no offline mail for me.

I know Nokia and the community are working to fix many of the issues. The rtcomm update and a viable mail client for gmail will go a ways to fixing some of the major "communications platform" issues. MicroB was a huge step forward since that allows us to draw on another whole community for support. The ubuntu mobile would be another big win if the NIT platform was beefy enough to support the software.

As a "second pocket" device another failing is sync. I'm not necessarily talking about PIM stuff either, just a way to backup and restore user files, application data, and basic settings to a host with little to no hassle. The palm "conduit" model worked great since it was a simple API that needed to be written to and was embraced by the developer community.

A little older, wiser, and armed with newer software I'm giving the n810 another swing at the second pocket.

Benson | # 114 | 2008-02-27, 16:31 | Report

Moreover, barring seriously widespread and affordable WiMAX, 2/3 of the people on here won't be buying one, because they have no use for WiMAX... I expect.

Texrat | # 115 | 2008-02-27, 16:32 | Report

I respectfully disagree. Again, it depends on each individual user's needs. True there will be many crying "where's the PIM???", but how much of the purchaser population do they really represent? The answer to that question *may* explain supposedly mysterious development priorities.

Anyway, I've already seen first-hand some complete novices pick up an N800 and go to town with it. So the comment above (emphasis mine), even though it's often stated, is by no means universal. I don't even think it represents the average.

That said, I am 100% in favor of improving the out-of-box experience.

sherifnix | # 116 | 2008-02-27, 16:34 | Report

Oh noes I am imagining this Cortex A8 based tablet with uber video and 3d capabilities. I'll take 3 pls.

Texrat | # 117 | 2008-02-27, 16:36 | Report

I would like to add to Brontide: I actually used to share your opinion above. I have only recently changed my mind upon reflection.

Red | # 118 | 2008-02-27, 16:41 | Report

My posts should all contain the disclaimer "Warning, contains at least one nut and is a source of hyperbole." It was my over-the-top way of expressing the anticipation I feel.

Personally I love my N800 and whatever the next IT I buy (and I *will* buy one) it will need to be at least a generation on from that.

Texrat | # 119 | 2008-02-27, 16:47 | Report

Red, I figured you were at least half-kidding, but I also figured many readers would take it seriously. On the surface such sentiments have merit but as most of us know I'm sure, product release cycles are so short now that FUD is a joke itself.

Personally I tend to be a generation-skipper, and I don't mind the ribbing I take from those who "need" the latest/greatest the instant it's available (Wii campers, you know who you are!). It's all about price/performance and usability to me.

Red | # 120 | 2008-02-27, 16:55 | Report

Generation-Skipper. That's a good way of putting it. Yep, that about sums me up when it comes to technology. I bought what must have been one of the last CRT widescreen televisions ever to have money paid for it, and I'm waiting until OLED comes along before I take the plunge. LCD and Plasma are the technologies I'm skipping.

I suppose what I'm trying to say is that while the N810 adds GPS and a keyboard to the N800, and the upcoming WiMAX will add, well, WiMAX; none of that is enough - in and of itself - for me to justify a move away from by beloved "double-zero".

The next generation, however (No star trek references please ) will - I believe - be worth investing in. Any snippet, any crumb I get on this "next generation" evokes a pavlovian response in me - yes, even including the drool - and your statement a few posts back just jerked me away from my work long enough to start staring into space dreaming of the next IT. I need to find out more information.

Now, I wonder where I put those pics of that Nokia employee in a compromising position with a ferret?