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    iPhone and iPod Touch SDK is amazing... Wow.

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    HellToupee | # 211 | 2008-03-16, 06:33 | Report

    firefox is gpl, mozilla license is for binary releases not the source code.

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    Benson | # 212 | 2008-03-17, 04:48 | Report

    Originally Posted by HellToupee View Post
    firefox is gpl, mozilla license is for binary releases not the source code.

    GPL would prohibit releases under a different license; IIRC, parts are LGPL, others are MPL.

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    HellToupee | # 213 | 2008-03-17, 10:04 | Report

    Originally Posted by Benson View Post

    GPL would prohibit releases under a different license; IIRC, parts are LGPL, others are MPL.
    GPL does not prohibit releases under different licenses, only copyright does, but if you hold the copyright to the code you can release it under any license you like like mysql its both gpl and commerically licensed.

    Parts don't have individual licenses the whole thing is tri licensed.

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    Benson | # 214 | 2008-03-17, 12:36 | Report

    True, in a pedantic way; what I was referring to is contributions to the GPLed source, presumably themselves licensed GPL only, could not then be distributed under another license. Should have been more precise...

    You may be right here; I was remembering from the old days of Mozilla, not Firefox; maybe I shouldn't post contradictions at 0100.

    Still, if anyone has references close to hand regarding FF licenses, they'd be welcome.

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    HellToupee | # 215 | 2008-03-17, 13:26 | Report

    Originally Posted by Benson View Post
    True, in a pedantic way; what I was referring to is contributions to the GPLed source, presumably themselves licensed GPL only, could not then be distributed under another license. Should have been more precise...

    You may be right here; I was remembering from the old days of Mozilla, not Firefox; maybe I shouldn't post contradictions at 0100.

    Still, if anyone has references close to hand regarding FF licenses, they'd be welcome.
    yep contributors code can't just be taken, but in mysqls case contributors to have their code accepted must agree to give them rights to the code Mozilla probably does things a similar way.

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    brontide | # 216 | 2008-03-17, 15:44 | Report

    http://www.tuaw.com/2008/03/17/craig...-backgrounding

    One legitimate reason to prohibit background apps is the fact that the battery on the iPhone sucks. A single running background app doing a small amount of processing every 5 minutes drained the battery in 4 hours. The only way to not incur this penalty is to immediately sleep the phone after doing work and use a wake up alarm to schedule the next activity.

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    tso | # 217 | 2008-03-17, 16:36 | Report

    and this they want to use as a work phone? should be interesting

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    mrklaw | # 218 | 2008-03-17, 20:46 | Report

    here is an article with a good synopsis of lots that is bad about the iphone sdk
    http://zbowling.com/blog/2008/03/14/...ram-is-a-joke/

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    sherifnix | # 219 | 2008-03-18, 01:52 | Report

    Originally Posted by brontide View Post
    http://www.tuaw.com/2008/03/17/craig...-backgrounding

    One legitimate reason to prohibit background apps is the fact that the battery on the iPhone sucks. A single running background app doing a small amount of processing every 5 minutes drained the battery in 4 hours. The only way to not incur this penalty is to immediately sleep the phone after doing work and use a wake up alarm to schedule the next activity.
    Most heavy lifting phones are in the same boat, even my blackberry battery life was severely hampered (read: halved) by running AIM in the background.

    The ones that do ok running for 2 days are usually 200mhz omaps. Wireless data is fairly expensive battery wise... I've found that using Wifi resulted on longer browse times on my iPhone. If I just do a few phone calls, check email and browse for a few hours the phone goes 2 days. As soon as I browse via EDGE it dies in 1 day.

    I'm not defending it, just sharing my experience.

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    tso | # 220 | 2008-03-18, 02:34 | Report

    Strange, wifi is normally more power hungry then gsm...

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