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Jerome is offline Jerome
2008-05-26 , 06:03
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Originally Posted by johnkzin View Post
You're making a very generic question out of what was a very specific question.

How well do those phones work with the N8x0s?
Do they pair?
Do they connect on DUN?
Do they have any unexpected quirks when acting as DUN gateways for the N8x0s? (such as delivering lower than expected speeds?)



You'd think that would be true.. but it's not. For two reasons:

1) not all bluetooth phones have DUN (ex: several blackberries don't, and sidekicks don't).

2) Not all Bluetooth DUN phones work with the N8x0's. I have a Samsung SCH-R410 ... and it doesn't work with my N810. They pair, but they don't connect. When I had a nokia phone on the exact same account, it worked fine (slow, but fine); so it's not the carrier nor the service, nor even the location. It's the phone.

I expect that nokia phone's with DUN will work with the N8x0, but you never know what quirks are out there. Thus my question about THOSE phones specifically. (my question wasn't general, it was about those exact phones)

I did not realise that some phones did not have DUN capacity (beyond the iPhone, for which I know that this capability has been purposefully blocked). I have had a 770, a N800 and a N810. I have used 3 Nokia phones: a 6630, a N80 (later upgraded to "internet edition) and a E51. All 3 worked with the default settings.

Now about your Samsung: I don't know that phone, but I know that DUN settings can be very, very tricky. I had to fumble a lot to get my N80 to work with my Apple powerbook. Have you compared DUN scripts written for the Samsung and the Nokias? The differences may point you to a solution. You'll find scripts written for Apple or Linux on the net.





Originally Posted by johnkzin View Post
You might notice that none of the phones I listed has HSPA for US bands. Until the US versions of the E71 come out, I'm expecting to be running at EDGE speed. And, really, while I don't expect EDGE to be fast, I don't expect EDGE to be unusably/unbearably slow, either.
You don't like generic answers, but anyway: speed tests are meaningless. They'll only tell you about the maximum speed possible when you are the only user in the cell. I am using 3G almost daily, and I can tell you from experience that sometimes it is fast, and at other times much slower. This should be even worse with EDGE, because the part of the network used is shared with many more voice users.

I can put my phone in EDGE mode if you wish and tell you about the difference in speed (if it works, I never tried).
 
nilchak is offline nilchak
2008-06-09 , 01:28
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#32
I am really frustrated with Nokia on the lack of a decent mid-level affordable HSDPA supported phone for the US networks (i.e. 1900 frequency support).

Apart from the N95 NAM version, there is not a single HSDPA phone in the US for AT&T or T-Mobile frequency support. The still in line N78 and E66 will be released God knows when.
The wait is so frustrating, that I may just consider the soon-to-be-released 3G iPhone (which is said to support HSDPA).
 
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2008-06-09 , 02:21
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Originally Posted by nilchak View Post
I am really frustrated with Nokia on the lack of a decent mid-level affordable HSDPA supported phone for the US networks (i.e. 1900 frequency support).

Apart from the N95 NAM version, there is not a single HSDPA phone in the US for AT&T or T-Mobile frequency support. The still in line N78 and E66 will be released God knows when.
The wait is so frustrating, that I may just consider the soon-to-be-released 3G iPhone (which is said to support HSDPA).
Part of me is thinking lately about getting an AT&T Express Card, unlocked via Ebay, and AT&T's gophone sim card ($20/mo for unlimited data, and I wont care if they shut me off for using more than 5G/mo, because I can just get a new one)... and put it into a Cradlepoint CTR-500.

Then I can use any wifi-enabled phone (or my N800/N810, or some MID or laptop) at 3G speed. And it wont be tied to my voice/msg plan at all.

As for the 3G iPhone ... if it does some form of tethering (preferably real wifi-sharing, as in "access point/infrastructure" mode, and not "ad-hoc" mode ... with better than WEP encryption), then I'd consider it as an alternative to the Cradepoint solution. A physical keyboard would be good too. And bluetooth keyboard support. As much as I am a MacOSX fanboy (due to having been a Nextstep fanboy), there's too much missing from the iPhone concept for me.
 
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