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    qole | # 61 | 2008-06-10, 17:41 | Report

    Originally Posted by ddalex View Post
    I like it for internet radio, but when I'm sitting, I'm usually at my computer, and that plays better without draining the battery... the same about MP3s.
    I can walk across the office and get a cup of coffee or go outside and work on my fence with my internet radio in my pocket. My home computer would need two hands to lift, and the power cord isn't very long

    And you shouldn't sit in front of your computer too much, it isn't good for your health

    Originally Posted by ddalex View Post
    I find the screen too small for comfortable reading.
    Really? I must disagree. Take some time to actually try reading with it. Mess about with font size and stuff. I found that once I got the settings right, I could read huge Neil Stephenson novels without any eye strain. I'd say reading from the tablet's screen is actually easier than from a book (except when outside in bright light). The crisp text, high contrast and back lighting really make reading enjoyable. And I can read in bed with the lights out without disturbing my wife!

    I've been looking for a good e-book reader for a long time, and I've been very disappointed by the other options I've seen. Either the text is chunky, the screen is low contrast, the form factor is unwieldy, or there's something else wrong.

    The tablets are great for reading e-books. I feel I've got some authority here; I'm a lifelong book reader. I've been tearing through stacks of novels for at least 30 years.

    Originally Posted by ddalex View Post
    No Exchange support, deal breaker. Embedded app doesn't handle well the thousands of mails in my gmail account.
    No Exchange support is a dealbreaker? That's like saying no MS Office document support is a dealbreaker. Perhaps Exchange support would be nice if you work in an office that has been lured away from standards-compliance by Microsoft, but there are workarounds even for those sad situations (eg. Texrat's web-based solution).

    As for GMail access, I'd say Modest, while still beta, is close enough for most geeky types to live with. It does a fine job of GMail IMAP.

    Originally Posted by ddalex View Post
    Lack of Firefox add-ins is the final nail in the coffin.
    Not sure what add-ins you're looking for, and what coffin you're talking about, but some of the most popular ones have been ported over here. This being an open software platform, I'm sure others would appreciate it if you ported the ones you need and made them available for us.

    Originally Posted by ddalex View Post
    I'll stop here, and remark that all those experiences you further listed are shaky and require some contortions, and I'm not seeing anybody stepping up to bring them on to consumer level.
    Dude. What consumer level? There's no such thing as a consumer level for these things. This is cutting edge technology. I'm glad Nokia released the tablets before achieving this mythical consumer level. Why? Because getting to consumer level always involves a lot of paid developer time that drives the price up (for the iConsumer) and a lot of closed, secret beta testing that I can't be a part of. This way, I get to geek out on the coolest device that I've ever owned, and I paid half of what an iConsumer would have paid.


    Originally Posted by ddalex View Post
    I moved away from windows about 8 years ago because I was tired to have to babysit the systems, and I wanted to have something that just works. Weird as it sounds, Linux was such a platform. But NITs are not .
    If you're bringing Windows vs Linux into the conversation (are you the same guy who said MS Exchange support was essential?), then NITs are exactly like desktop Linux. If you roll up your sleeves, pop open the hood and do some tinkering, you can get your tablet purring beautifully. But even desktop-centered Linux distributions like Ubuntu don't have the polish and ease-of-use that Mac or Windows has. The tablets are the same way, you sacrifice some polish for a whole lot more control and flexibility. Sure, no multitouch. But no jailbreaking required, either.

    I love these threads; it always gets me worked up when people tell me my baby is ugly.

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    Texrat | # 62 | 2008-06-10, 17:51 | Report

    Originally Posted by Karel Jansens View Post
    I'm not "demanding" anything, but I cannot say I wasn't expecting this answer.
    My bad. Looked like a demand from where I sit... especially the "give me" and "some time tomorrow" parts.

    But I'm glad I didn't disappoint you with my response. Can I get you to fill out a Curmudgeon's Satisfation card?

    Oh wait-- there is something truly wrong with that...

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    IcelandDreams | # 63 | 2008-06-10, 17:52 | Report

    Originally Posted by joepagiii View Post
    aint skeered
    ...its pretty gorram handy
    good ones to add to my regional vocabulary for the next time I'm in NC (Mt Mitchell area is lovely)

    as for the rest of the iBoreThreads.......
    "deila um keisarans skegg"






    Jæja, en áfram med sm jörid

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    tabletrat | # 64 | 2008-06-10, 18:08 | Report

    Originally Posted by Benson View Post
    Two years? You really thought these machines would be awesome consumer devices in two years from introduction? Seriously, laptops didn't become mainstream-capable in two years from introduction; neither did PCs; neither did cellular telephones; nor yet PDAs...
    Quite right. It took 3 years for PDAs to become awesome,from 94 to 97.

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    daperl | # 65 | 2008-06-10, 18:09 | Report

    Originally Posted by Texrat View Post
    I access email served by Exchange by using the Outlook web client via my tablets.
    As do I...I think. I'm not really sure what's behind that curtain. Maybe Exchange and Outlook can go away now.

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    joepagiii | # 66 | 2008-06-10, 18:10 | Report

    actually i got gorram from watchin firefly...the regional dialect took me some time to get used to skreet instead of street...skrimp instead of shrimp...etc...

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    daperl | # 67 | 2008-06-10, 18:17 | Report

    Originally Posted by stelchio View Post
    we were promised through ads and various gadget blogs a wonderfull all around gizmo. we were of course sold. instead we got a poorly build piece of crap loaded with the worst kind of software; the faulty, slow and nerdy kind, not good for anything. and people have the nerve to compare it with sleek products like the ipod/iphone! why dont you sell it you might ask. I just made a bad choise, i can live with it, no big deal. claiming though that this crappy device is any good is just nonsense. nokia has tricked us into buying this crap and by us i mean anyone who thought was buying an END-product. almost nothing works. Would you recommend it to your friends? yes or no? does the device fullfill the specs as advertised?

    ps. by no means do i mean offense to this great community. with out your help i would have thrown it out of the window the first day i got it.
    Isn't it cool: I think my n800 is currently the greatest thing since sliced time and you think your tablet is crap. I think that's cool. Just sayin'.

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    IcelandDreams | # 68 | 2008-06-10, 18:28 | Report

    Originally Posted by
    actually i got gorram from watchin firefly...the regional dialect took me some time to get used to skreet instead of street...skrimp instead of shrimp...etc...
    I stopped for fuel at a country station in NC and a sign on the pump read "No Cridit". so I paid in cash...... But they wouldn't take my dollar coin (bad luck apparently) and was forced to use another $20 bill. grrr.

    I can't get used to what they say up here at the coffee shops: "double double please". still gives me shivers.

    I like accents and idioms. Isn't this more fun than arguing over imaginary shortcomings of the N8* (or promised pluses of the iSaviour)?

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    Benson | # 69 | 2008-06-10, 18:29 | Report

    Originally Posted by tabletrat View Post
    Quite right. It took 3 years for PDAs to become awesome,from 94 to 97.
    Well, the OMP came out in 1993, for 3.5-4 years, actually.

    Which '97 release are you discussing?
    A kilobuck for a PDA (a brief Google says $950 original price, anyway) isn't necessarily mainstream ready, but the MP 1000 would certainly qualify as awesome.
    The PalmPilots (Personal and Professional), OTOH, might make the mainstream-ready cut, but don't fit your word "awesome"...

    Oh well, two device families, one for low-end, one for high-end... Yep, awesome it was. If only I'd had any money back then.

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    IcelandDreams | # 70 | 2008-06-10, 18:39 | Report

    Make it stop...... The title says "NITs - what are they good for... ???" but all I hear in my head is:::

    War, huh, yeah
    What is it good for
    Absolutely nothing
    Uh-huh
    War, huh, yeah
    What is it good for
    Absolutely nothing
    Say it again, y'all

    War, huh, good God
    What is it good for
    Absolutely nothing
    Listen to me

    Ohhh, war, I despise
    Because it means destruction
    Of innocent lives

    War means tears
    To thousands of mothers eyes
    When their sons go to fight
    And lose their lives

    I said, war, huh
    Good God, y'all
    What is it good for
    Absolutely nothing
    Say it again

    War, whoa, Lord
    What is it good for
    Absolutely nothing
    Listen to me

    War, it ain't nothing
    But a heartbreaker
    War, friend only to the undertaker
    Ooooh, war
    It's an enemy to all mankind
    The point of war blows my mind
    War has caused unrest
    Within the younger generation
    Induction then destruction
    Who wants to die
    Aaaaah, war-huh
    Good God y'all
    What is it good for
    Absolutely nothing
    Say it, say it, say it
    War, huh
    What is it good for
    Absolutely nothing
    Listen to me

    War, huh, yeah
    What is it good for
    Absolutely nothing
    Uh-huh
    War, huh, yeah
    What is it good for
    Absolutely nothing
    Say it again y'all
    War, huh, good God
    What is it good for
    Absolutely nothing
    Listen to me

    War, it ain't nothing but a heartbreaker
    War, it's got one friend
    That's the undertaker
    Ooooh, war, has shattered
    Many a young mans dreams
    Made him disabled, bitter and mean
    Life is much too short and precious
    To spend fighting wars these days
    War can't give life
    It can only take it away

    Ooooh, war, huh
    Good God y'all
    What is it good for
    Absolutely nothing
    Say it again

    War, whoa, Lord
    What is it good for
    Absolutely nothing
    Listen to me

    War, it ain't nothing but a heartbreaker
    War, friend only to the undertaker
    Peace, love and understanding
    Tell me, is there no place for them today
    They say we must fight to keep our freedom
    But Lord knows there's got to be a better way

    Ooooooh, war, huh
    Good God y'all
    What is it good for
    You tell me
    Say it, say it, say it, say it

    War, huh
    Good God y'all
    What is it good for
    Stand up and shout it
    Nothing

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