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ah, i missed that part. silly me
 
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Clear description, your last post. One question though: why would one trust scheduleworld.com to contain their data?
 
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I don't keep anything too sensitive in any online portal, including Google (or my own domain).
The way I figure it Scheduleworld is at least as secure as Google and I didn't find anything that said they weren't a decent service as far as privacy and such went.
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ah, got it working. and with dates no less. time to toss that GPE stuff out.

only issue with dates are missing alarms (no biggie) and no summary of any kind (more of a issue as even on fully zoomed in, things can become small if less the half a hour long).

to bad in a way that the pimlico people have more or less stated that they have no real interest in the tablets.
 
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Yeah, privacy is a legitimate concern.

I just set up syncevolution on both my desktop and tablet, and everything works as advertised. Pretty happy with the setup, I must say. That is, until I discovered that the built-in Contacts db doesn't support the physical address field. So the completeness of the contact info on the tablet doesn't match that on the desktop. However, I noticed that if I edit a contact on the tablet, sync it to the server, then back on the desktop, the physical address field is retained. So that's a good thing. But I wonder, does that field live on in osso-addressbook (beyond user's reach), or is it a feature of the syncML server that knows how to track it and merge it back in the Vcard?

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im guessing that the addressbook database can hold fields that the osso-addressbook interface cant handle.

and yes, privacy is a issue. but i will say less so then with google (as it likes to datamine your data whatever uses they can think off).
 
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The built in Contacts app uses Evolution Data Server to store info. Thats the same backend as in Desktop Evolution so all the same fields are supported, although the built-in contacts app doesn't really have a way to access them.

Example: In Evolution I had full contact cards set up and I sync'd them to the Tablet. I figured the tablet only grabbed the fields it had available. However, due to a weird crash I had to sync back from the tablet to overwrite Evolution. Lo and Behold, All my missing information was back, not just the Tablet Contacts info.

Now as a caveat, I will tell you I had installed and uninstalled Pimlico Contacts which might have modified the Tablets EDS, but the point is EDS is EDS whether its desktop or Tablet and all the same information is available to use.

Where did you find that Pimlico/Openhand "stated that they have no real interest in the tablets?"

If thats true we need to get some erstwhile developer to basically Mimic the Pimlico stuff and start a new development project to bring that class of app up to snuff. If not I will have to go back to GPE since a Dead program isn't worth supporting. (Gener Cash's changed to use EDS, or an option in GPE to use EDS would work as a base)

EDS is there to use people! We just need someone to build something worthwhile to use it! How about just Full Evolution ported to the Tablet? It could be done. An all in one solution for the NIT - Email (That works), Contacts, Dates, et all. Easy to sync to the desktop (because evolution is evolution after all) and complete.
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Also, I haven’t fixed many Maemo issues because we don’t really support the Maemo version (Maemo already has an address book anyway…).
Wow, that blows (not to mention a gross misunderstanding of the maemo addressbook). Doesn't make much real sense, but its their product. Its a shame really, it was the smoothest UI of the crop. Guess I'll be going back to GPE for all but contacts.

So someone willing to make a port of Evolution or build something nice based on EDS? Unfortunately, I don't have the skill or I'd be all over this. I hate to think of a complete PIM backend going to wast on the NIT and users having to use up precious storage space for a different database backend. Evolution is already ported to ARM (debian Armel packages) so it would just have to be maemo'd.
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Am I able to run my own 'server' for this purpose? Then I'm all set. Or, lets say my ISP runs a SSH server. I can sync the EDS data to this SSH server, and then sync from my desktop from the SSH server. Correct? I think this would be easier if export to iCal was supported?

I don't want Google or some other corporation owning sensitive data like my contacts, calendar and todo list. It is of none of their concern; and why would they provide a service like this to me, for free no less? I don't buy it.

I think Evolution is way too big & not hildonized (esp regarding UI) to run on the tablet. If you want to run this kind of application you might as well use ssh -X, NX, RDP or whatever to run it remotely. Think of it: why was Tinymail ported to maemo? And Modest? Modest supports IMAP4 so there is a consumer-quality way of syncing data.

The main thing I don't like about all the PIM solutions is that none of them integrates well with maemo.
 
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