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2008-07-29
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Originally Posted by Boke
Ah, just wait for the Canadians to find your thread. From what I understand, cellular companies there regularly invade homes during the night to poke their customers with sharpened sticks.
The more the list grows, the more I hate being french.
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2008-07-29
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Originally Posted by krisse
We ear a bit about this lately in France too, mostly because the IPhone is only available at Orange which piss off a lot of people.
The network operators have been ripping people off all over the world for a long time now. I hope the EU starts taking notice of things like phone locking which have made the networks lazy and uncompetitive.
Broadband ISPs are competitive, so why aren't mobile ISPs too?
(BTW, phone locking was illegal in Finland until recently, which is partly why there are such good prices here, because it increased competition.)
But the law is moving slowly. I also hope EU will do something about it soon.
Anyone has an idea why we have unlimited data plans for like 30€ / month but we can't use the phone as a modem(it's in the contract)?
We can only use web and mail on the phone, not on the PC or the IT... IMHO it's just stupid.
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2008-07-29
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Originally Posted by Boke
There is absolutely no technical reason for it, it's just the network operator being greedy.
Anyone has an idea why we have unlimited data plans for like 30€ / month but we can't use the phone as a modem(it's in the contract)?
I have a 10e month plan which lets me use the connection with ANYTHING, the network doesn't care what I'm connected to.
In fact Saunalahti positively encourage people to use their data plans with computers, the adverts show people using their laptops with their phones. If you sign up for 2 years of data, you get an EEE PC and USB 3G modem for 10 euros a month extra:
http://saunalahti.fi/puhelimet/puhel...79&type=bundle
They had a Nokia tablet bundle too last year.
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2008-07-29
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Originally Posted by krisse
We have such thing now 30€ / month for data with a 3G usb modem and an EEEPC for 99€.
There is absolutely no technical reason for it, it's just the network operator being greedy.
I have a 10e month plan which lets me use the connection with ANYTHING, the network doesn't care what I'm connected to.
In fact Saunalahti positively encourage people to use their data plans with computers, the adverts show people using their laptops with their phones. If you sign up for 2 years of data, you get an EEE PC and USB 3G modem for 10 euros a month extra:
http://saunalahti.fi/puhelimet/puhel...79&type=bundle
They had a Nokia tablet bundle too last year.
But:
1) It's expensive for data only.
2) I'm pretty sure it's usable only with the 3G USB modem which makes it unusable on the NIT. And even if I take the sim card out of the key to put it in a bluetooth phone, it means I can't make or recieve phone calls then.
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2008-08-02
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Read and cry (for me 
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Romania, Vodafone 3g:
2,38 euro with 10 Mb traffic included, additional 0,0023/10KB
They also offer a crappy 4,76 EUR/month unlimited internet 500 mb traffic plan. Although all the sales idiots said that it's true internet AND I specifically asked if other ports than 80 work because I use internet on my mobile for much more than web it's basically proxy-ed web&wap.
Oh, they also have 3g usb crap modems for use with laptops with much cheaper rates. I tried the sim card for one of those in a phone and it works, so you could get one of those and convert a 3g phone in a bluetooth modem for your IT.
)Romania, Vodafone 3g:
2,38 euro with 10 Mb traffic included, additional 0,0023/10KB
They also offer a crappy 4,76 EUR/month unlimited internet 500 mb traffic plan. Although all the sales idiots said that it's true internet AND I specifically asked if other ports than 80 work because I use internet on my mobile for much more than web it's basically proxy-ed web&wap.
Oh, they also have 3g usb crap modems for use with laptops with much cheaper rates. I tried the sim card for one of those in a phone and it works, so you could get one of those and convert a 3g phone in a bluetooth modem for your IT.
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2008-08-04
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XS4All, The Netherlands:
1 year contract, monthly payment.
Start: 33,57 EUR 768/384, 1 GB
Lite: 50 EUR 1800/384, 2 GB
Basic: 80 EUR, 3600/1400, FUP
All prices excluding VAT (add 20%
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Current XS4All customers get 25% cut.
Expensive, but they're known for not tampering with connections. You won't get strange **** like 'not allowed to run VPN', 'not allowed to run VoIP', or 'strange RSTs on certain protocols'.
I might opt for this (w/Start), or consider a cheaper solution (Vodafone and T-Mobile are cheaper but pose limits on the connection). I'll have to look up their prices, will add them later.
What I'd like to do is use a GlobeSurfer (the USB one) + Linux on laptop & NIT. I think, with a miniUSB to USB converter (example) I am all set, correct?
1 year contract, monthly payment.
Start: 33,57 EUR 768/384, 1 GB
Lite: 50 EUR 1800/384, 2 GB
Basic: 80 EUR, 3600/1400, FUP
All prices excluding VAT (add 20%
)Current XS4All customers get 25% cut.
Expensive, but they're known for not tampering with connections. You won't get strange **** like 'not allowed to run VPN', 'not allowed to run VoIP', or 'strange RSTs on certain protocols'.
I might opt for this (w/Start), or consider a cheaper solution (Vodafone and T-Mobile are cheaper but pose limits on the connection). I'll have to look up their prices, will add them later.
What I'd like to do is use a GlobeSurfer (the USB one) + Linux on laptop & NIT. I think, with a miniUSB to USB converter (example) I am all set, correct?
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2008-08-04
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Please include the speed! This is very important.
http://www.t-mobile.nl/persoonlijk/h.../tarieven.aspx
Look here what T-Mobile tries to pull. They give you a capped speed of e.g. 24 kbit/sec. This is outrageous!
It is also very important what the costs are outside the country.
Here are Vodafone NL prices
http://www.vodafone.nl/prive/mobiel_.../wat_kost_het/
Addendum: Both posts above are for laptop (or: "any device"), they are not for mobile phones. For mobile phones the data plans are cheaper, but also more limited. I don't want a phone, I want to use my NIT as phone!
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http://www.t-mobile.nl/persoonlijk/h.../tarieven.aspx
Look here what T-Mobile tries to pull. They give you a capped speed of e.g. 24 kbit/sec. This is outrageous!
It is also very important what the costs are outside the country.
Here are Vodafone NL prices
http://www.vodafone.nl/prive/mobiel_.../wat_kost_het/
Addendum: Both posts above are for laptop (or: "any device"), they are not for mobile phones. For mobile phones the data plans are cheaper, but also more limited. I don't want a phone, I want to use my NIT as phone!
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2008-08-04
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Originally Posted by Boke
Cingular/ATT Media Net is $15 unlimited. The old $20 plan included 200 text messages which is now a separate $5 fee.
I'd like to make a per country list of data plans for your mobile phone. A lot of us would like to have such plans to use the phone as a modem, but it's not so easy to find a good one (at least here in Europe).
So please, if you have a data plan for your phone and you use it as a modem, tell us your country, your provider, the name of the data plan, and the price.
Provider: Cingular/att
Plan: unlimited data (MediaNet service)
Price: 20$ / month
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2008-08-04
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Originally Posted by Gorgon
Yet another reason against the much hyped iphone.
Cingular/ATT Media Net is $15 unlimited. The old $20 plan included 200 text messages which is now a separate $5 fee.
If i go ahead and sign a contract and take this plan.... can the later on increase the the monthly charge for internet??
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Broadband ISPs are competitive, so why aren't mobile ISPs too?
(BTW, phone locking was illegal in Finland until recently, which is partly why there are such good prices here, because it increased competition.)