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I remember having used VNC for recording screencasts with my old 770. Now, with N800 and Diablo, I see the VNCviewer the appl. manager, but no VNC server.

I'm aware of X11vnc, but I'm also a little scared of it because of the red pill stuff (which I promised never to use again). Is there any other stable, working, tested VNC-server that can easily be installed on Diablo? If not: I'm using a GNU/Linux system on my desktop, too, so maybe there are other means of getting the whole N800-desktop displayed there and interact with it via keyboard and mouse. (I never, for example, succeeded in plain X11 forwarding, which I think is due to Xomap limitations. But then again I could be wrong...)

(Note that I'm not looking for a way to run an application on my desktop and view/control it on the N800; I want it the other way round and I want the whole screen of the N800 to appear as a window on my desktop.)

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Then don't use red-pill; use dpkg -i.

X forwarding should work, but it'll be a hassle to get a full Hildon environment running in an 800x480 Xnest/Xephyr...
 

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Xomap is started using -nolisten tcp btw.
 
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Thanks for your answers. So it seems there's currently no way to get this done without any hassle...

Who knows, new packages do appear in "extras" every now and then...... I'll have to wait.
 
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Yeah, X-forwarding doesn't work in normal OS2008 environment.

I know that there's a VNC server somewhere, though... Brontide uses it to do screencasting recordings, doesn't he?

This guy says the VNC server does work, if you bite the bullet and install it.
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x11vnc works for me and xrdp, but I'm using a custom version compiled in the DIABLO_SDK. I'd share but there is some init script quirks I'd like to fix.
 
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May I add once again that I think it's a shame the tablets never got plain, simple X-forwarding right. I'm not talking about "ssh -X", but about typing "export DISPLAY=10.0.0.143:0.0" right in the N800's terminal and the starting whatever application you want so it gets displayed at 10.0.0.143. If at least this would work... but no.

As for the rest:
quole, thanks for the link, I had it before and actually it was why I started this thread at all. It really bugs me to know that in principle there is x11vnc out there, but has to be installed using all these quirks. After years of software development for the Maemo platform, I no longer consider these packages "software". "Software" is what's in "extras", installs with one click and gets updated automatically once a new version is available. Period. (OK, maybe if I desperately need an application, I'd be willing to add another repository besides "extras", but only if it has gathered some reputation and there's a very good reason why the authors don't move to 'extras'. But plain *debs that even require red pill mode? No.) I don't support any lower standards by accepting them.

(Sorry, I'm in a terrible mood today... Not your fault.)

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Ok, got forwarding X application to work with some serious quirks (maybe Qole could help, I know he did brilliantly with kbrowser.).

1. Edit /etc/init.d/x-server and remove the "-nolisten tcp" from the args line. (Be careful, messing up this file can cause the tablet not to boot)
2. Reboot.
3. Ensure X11Forwarding is turned on in /etc/ssh/sshd_config.
4. Install xauth. http://qwerty12.maemobox.org/xauth_1.0.2-2_armel.deb
5. ssh -X root@urtablet'sip
6. Run a program.

Bugs:
Theming, menus is messed up.

Crap, heh, just realised you don't want this . I'll leave it here for those that do

How to forward as user:
ssh -X root@tabletip (this is so that the .Xauthority gets created)
cp /root/.Xauthority /home/user
su - user
chown user:users /home/user/.Xauthority
export DISPLAY=localhost:10.0
export XAUTHORITY=/home/user/.Xauthority

Here's xbase-clients for those that need it out of curiosity.
http://qwerty12.maemobox.org/xbase-c...s1-2_armel.deb

I removed stuff that would not compile (needed gl libs etc). I would not recommend installing this but instead using dpkg -x and moving binaries that you need and that do not already exist.

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Originally Posted by qwerty12 View Post
Crap, heh, just realised you don't want this . I'll leave it here for those that do


I herewith grant you the right to leave it here even though it wasn't what I wanted.

After all: it's a start and contains new information. Who knows what I'll want once my mood changed back to normal....


EDIT: I remember someone saying that with this setup, you can press "F4" on the desktop to activate the application menu. Never tried it.

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Originally Posted by benny1967 View Post
As for the rest:
quole, thanks for the link, I had it before and actually it was why I started this thread at all. It really bugs me to know that in principle there is x11vnc out there, but has to be installed using all these quirks. After years of software development for the Maemo platform, I no longer consider these packages "software". "Software" is what's in "extras", installs with one click and gets updated automatically once a new version is available. Period.
Amen to that. "How do I install softwareX" threads are so ******ed.
 
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