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2008-09-16
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Did you install the Dummy connection fix for Diablo?
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2008-09-16
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Super useful thread, btw.
Server upgrades are due to go live within the next few weeks (barring any big issues).
Server upgrades are due to go live within the next few weeks (barring any big issues).
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2008-09-17
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Bundyo, What is the dummy connection fix? Where can I get it? My Diablo is updated with all the latest automatic updates?
GeneralAntilles, I wasn't complaining about the speed of ITT or the forums. This site (and the community) is great - fast, and very helpful. Couldn't be better. I was commenting about maemo.org. And if the server upgrades are for maemo.org, that is indeed good news. thanks.
GeneralAntilles, I wasn't complaining about the speed of ITT or the forums. This site (and the community) is great - fast, and very helpful. Couldn't be better. I was commenting about maemo.org. And if the server upgrades are for maemo.org, that is indeed good news. thanks.
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2008-09-17
, 00:58
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Originally Posted by TokyoDan
It is. Hopefully that'll be fixed soon.
The Maemo.org website is so goddamn slow to load.
You'd think that such an organization would have faster servers.
This open source stuff is so amateurish.
Notice I did not quote your actual question. The thread title makes the question out of place.
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2008-09-17
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I realize that we had a big thread about the "golf words" filter--I believe that it was generally agreed that we would all be big boys and girls about our language--but do you have to use profanity in the thread title like this? It is not so bad in an individual post, but in the title it just never goes away.
Last edited by eetimm; 2008-09-17 at 01:03.
Last edited by eetimm; 2008-09-17 at 01:03.
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2008-09-17
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BrentDC,
"How does speed of a server have anything to do with the license agreement of the software contained on it?"...I didn't say anything about a software license agreement. I just meant that an organization's slow server makes me think that the organization is second rate and that the software "OKed" by that organization isn't up to par, unlike Apple with it's stringent rules for the iTunes App Store.
To sum it up, I'm not sold on "Open Source" being equal to or better than software produced by profit-based organizations like Apple or Microsoft. Nokia is profit-based but they use open source software on the N810.
eetimm, Sorry for the language. I'll be more careful in the future. I just get so darn irritated. Sorry.
"How does speed of a server have anything to do with the license agreement of the software contained on it?"...I didn't say anything about a software license agreement. I just meant that an organization's slow server makes me think that the organization is second rate and that the software "OKed" by that organization isn't up to par, unlike Apple with it's stringent rules for the iTunes App Store.
To sum it up, I'm not sold on "Open Source" being equal to or better than software produced by profit-based organizations like Apple or Microsoft. Nokia is profit-based but they use open source software on the N810.
eetimm, Sorry for the language. I'll be more careful in the future. I just get so darn irritated. Sorry.
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2008-09-17
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Originally Posted by TokyoDan
I believe you are slightly confused regarding what open-source software actually is. All it is is software licensed under the terms of the General Public License. And, if more loosely defined, a few other licenses derived thereof (LGPL, etc.).
BrentDC,
"How does speed of a server have anything to do with the license agreement of the software contained on it?"...I didn't say anything about a software license agreement. I just meant that an organization's slow server makes me think that the organization is second rate and that the software "OKed" by that organization isn't up to par, unlike Apple with it's stringent rules for the iTunes App Store.
To sum it up, I'm not sold on "Open Source" being equal to or better than software produced by profit-based organizations like Apple or Microsoft. Nokia is profit-based but they use open source software on the N810.
So when you said Open Source is so amateurish, I was confused as to how the speed of a server somehow reflects that since "Open Source", is, in fact, a license agreement. I now understand your point, but also now disagree with it more. I might agree with the proposition that the cranky server somehow reflects badly on Nokia, or their motivation to their Tablet experiment, but to a license agreement used by thousands of companies and hundred of thousands of individuals? Hardly.
Just my opinion.
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2008-09-17
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Originally Posted by BrentDC
You're close, but "open source" is best used to refer to any license conforming to the OSI's Open Source Definition, derived from Debian's Debian Free Software Guidelines, which is practically the same as the FSF's Free Software Definition. None of these make any reference to what the license is derived from, but concern themselves with the actual provisions of the license; in fact, BSD was releasing software meeting the FSD and OSD before GNU (and hence the GPL) existed.
I believe you are slightly confused regarding what open-source software actually is. All it is is software licensed under the terms of the General Public License. And, if more loosely defined, a few other licenses derived thereof (LGPL, etc.).
So when you said Open Source is so amateurish, I was confused as to how the speed of a server somehow reflects that since "Open Source", is, in fact, a license agreement. I now understand your point, but also now disagree with it more. I might agree with the proposition that the cranky server somehow reflects badly on Nokia, or their motivation to their Tablet experiment, but to a license agreement used by thousands of companies and hundred of thousands of individuals? Hardly.
Just my opinion.
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2008-09-17
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Originally Posted by Benson
When I said derived, I was not intending to imply the traditional sense of the word, but derived in the fact that they are all based on the same concept (with slight variations). In fact, I believe that changing (creating a derivative license) is not allowed?
You're close, but "open source" is best used to refer to any license conforming to the OSI's Open Source Definition, derived from Debian's Debian Free Software Guidelines, which is practically the same as the FSF's Free Software Definition. None of these make any reference to what the license is derived from, but concern themselves with the actual provisions of the license.
I should've been more clear.
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Author of TouchSearch -- web searching software for Maemo 5.
Mobile Device lineage: Palm Z22 -> Palm TX -> Nokia N800 -> Nokia N900
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Author of TouchSearch -- web searching software for Maemo 5.
Mobile Device lineage: Palm Z22 -> Palm TX -> Nokia N800 -> Nokia N900
You'd think that such an organization would have faster servers. I'm starting to get frustrated with everything connected to Maemo and the N810. This open source stuff is so amateurish.
I've tried everything to get USB networking with my N810 Diablo and Mac OSX Leopard. I've tried USB Control and even this AJZaurusUSB (http://www.dsitri.de/wiki.php?page=AJZaurusUSB).
Is there anyway to downgrade to Chinook so I can use USB Networking with my Mac Leopard? According to a post I read here that USB Networking used to work on Chinook with the Mac OSX Leopard.