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    penguinbait | # 31 | 2009-01-29, 17:24 | Report

    Originally Posted by
    From Craig:

    As you will have seen in the last couple of days we are nearing the end of the beginning, the videos are out there with more to come.

    So in order to get things moving along to mass production we have to put an end date on reorders and also allow people to take up the empty order places.

    Please try to get your REorders in within the next 7 days, don’t worry if they don’t arrive for a little after that - we will be flexible.

    New orders, if you want to order a Pandora (or two) from the first batch you can now place a new order via:

    Bank Transfer (tranzfers, xoom, via your bank)
    Money Order (free from your bank but you will have to post us it)
    Cheque/Check

    The price of a Pandora is $330 (USD), please email us to arrange (we need to calculate your shipping method).

    We are trying very hard to get s US$ account set up - we might have the details this week for this. I hope this will help more people to order. We can talk about this if you email or phone us.

    You cannot use a credit card.

    New orders will be taken for about another two to three weeks (or of course until we run out of places, whichever happens first). During that time we will be moving forward to production.

    I'm out, I can't stand the crazy double talk any longer. I will get an email soon, no I have 7 days to reorder, but they aren't going to tell me that, I have to go searching to find out.

    They can blame banks all they want, I blame myself for being stupid enough to think this was a good idea.

    I'm out, this just seems like one big scam, I wanted the device for gaming and figured it would tide me over until new nokia release. But they took forever, lost me 73$ and are now telling me to send them a check/money order/bank transfer.

    NO CREDIT CARDS WILL BE ACCEPTED

    I find this quote very interesting "New orders, if you want to order a Pandora (or two) from the first batch you can now place a new order via:"

    I have not told them I would not reorder yet, but it appears many people have.

    I have decided that I will not reorder. If it actually comes to be, I can always order one from the second batch. Additionally if I order via credit card I have recourse to get my money back. If I send the money how they request, it would be impossible for me to recover my funds should they screw me AGAIN.

    ARGH!

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    qole | # 32 | 2009-01-29, 17:55 | Report

    At this point, I'd wait for the RX-51 and if it turns out to be disappointing (unlikely, but still, possible), you can always get the Pandora v2, which will probably have some fixes on the first version anyway... you know, like the batteries don't explode any more, or the screen doesn't flicker purple and green after a few hours of use, like the first version... I really lost all faith in the Pandora earlier this month when I read words like "prototyping" in their posts. You mean, you haven't even finished prototyping your units by January 2009? Ooooh, man.

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    smog | # 33 | 2009-01-29, 18:12 | Report

    Originally Posted by penguinbait View Post
    I have decided that I will not reorder. If it actually comes to be, I can always order one from the second batch. Additionally if I order via credit card I have recourse to get my money back. If I send the money how they request, it would be impossible for me to recover my funds should they screw me AGAIN.

    ARGH!
    people were supposed to have the device before the end of the year...

    when the first offer came out I decided to wait for a physical device to be available so I was set for the second batch or ebay for one of the first batch.

    Now.... I just got a cheap used n810 and I will live with it.

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    fpp | # 34 | 2009-01-29, 18:23 | Report

    Are we headed towards a crash-ending featuring Ferraris, like with the Gizmondo ? :-)

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    qole | # 35 | 2009-01-29, 18:24 | Report

    Originally Posted by fpp View Post
    Are we headed towards a crash-ending featuring Ferraris, like with the Gizmondo ? :-)
    I hope so! Tech news can be so dry. A few sordid scandals always spice things up!

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    tso | # 36 | 2009-01-29, 18:27 | Report

    not likely, as they do not have venture capital to spend on those kinds of vehicles...

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    GeneralAntilles | # 37 | 2009-01-29, 18:37 | Report

    Originally Posted by smog View Post
    people were supposed to have the device before the end of the year...
    Worse yet, the release has been delayed since last April.

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    tso | # 38 | 2009-01-29, 19:00 | Report

    and i wonder how many potential delays nokia has with some of their products, that they never talk about until mass production is under way...

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    GeneralAntilles | # 39 | 2009-01-29, 19:40 | Report

    [Emphasis mine]

    Originally Posted by tso View Post
    and i wonder how many potential delays nokia has with some of their products, that they never talk about until mass production is under way...
    That's exactly it. That they never talk about. The Pandora's problem is less that there were delays (they're an inexperienced bunch, it's to be expected), but that they failed utterly at managing expectations (both their own and that of their customers).

    Product delays are a reality of consumer electronics, anybody familiar with the industry knows this, but promising things (over and over) that you clearly can't deliver is a bad way to do business. Whatever delays Nokia has experienced, they certainly haven't promised us anything that they haven't delivered.

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    Matan | # 40 | 2009-01-29, 19:53 | Report

    Originally Posted by tso View Post
    and i wonder how many potential delays nokia has with some of their products, that they never talk about until mass production is under way...
    At least Nokia did not take my money, promising a device within a month, and then returned some of my money, saying they lost the rest on the foreign exchange markets, so it is my problem.

    (And I am not a great fan of Nokia).

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