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#11
Dunno if I'm alone in this, but I strongly suspect that the Nokia standard 64MB swap file plays a significant role in the symptoms already described by others, ie the battery chewing itself down from full to red overnight while the tablet lays idle with its cover on, and spontaneous reboots in the same conditions. At least such occurrences seem to have decreased drastically in numbers since I disabled the swap.

That said, I was also suspecting the bluetooth plugin. Not having the patience to do a proper scientific test, I disabled both at the same time, so maybe it's one or the other, or a combination of both. Or perhaps just a bad MMC :-)
 
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Originally Posted by fpp
Dunno if I'm alone in this, but I strongly suspect that the Nokia standard 64MB swap file plays a significant role in the symptoms already described by others, ie the battery chewing itself down from full to red overnight while the tablet lays idle with its cover on, and spontaneous reboots in the same conditions. At least such occurrences seem to have decreased drastically in numbers since I disabled the swap.

That said, I was also suspecting the bluetooth plugin. Not having the patience to do a proper scientific test, I disabled both at the same time, so maybe it's one or the other, or a combination of both. Or perhaps just a bad MMC :-)
I have both installed and have yet to see the first of those symptoms.
 
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#13
Are you quite sure ?

Battery drain is quite obvious of course, but auto-reboot when idle can be easy to miss if you don't usually leave an app open all the time (like the browser) and suddenly find it's not there anymore.

If you almost never turn off your tablet nor let it run dry, the 'uptime' command run from xterm should return quite a lengthy value. Is that duration as high as you think it should be ?
 
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fpp, do you exit the shell while in xterm or do you just shut down xterm? I was lazy at first and just shut down xterm then I realized the shells were staying open (one for the default user and then the one created when I sudu su) I wonder if this could be more of the issue rather than the swap.
 
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Sometimes an xterm that's in the background just goes 'poof' while I'm doing something else, and in that case the processes it was running (like privoxy) stay in memory. But most of the time I exit properly, so I never have a gazillion xterms runing. Not enough uptime for that :-)
 
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Originally Posted by fpp
Are you quite sure ?

Battery drain is quite obvious of course, but auto-reboot when idle can be easy to miss if you don't usually leave an app open all the time (like the browser) and suddenly find it's not there anymore.

If you almost never turn off your tablet nor let it run dry, the 'uptime' command run from xterm should return quite a lengthy value. Is that duration as high as you think it should be ?
Lessee: uptime output
00:38:00 up 9 days, 3:28, load average: 0.21, 0.04, 0.01

Yup, sounds about right. I'm trying to remember why I rebooted 9 days ago... Oh yeah: that was when I tried Minimo again and it stank up Nokillo completely.

It seems I'm not really taxing Nokillo to its limits -- which is actually a good thing: plenty of juice left if I want to toughen it up a bit.
 
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#17
Geez, I turn off at least once a day, sometimes more. Sometimes it's to preserve battery, other times (post-crash) to kick the system in its head (The Sopranos Maneuver!).

I've had Opera go Poof! before adding the BT KB plug-in. But I've also had the 770 with OS 2006 do things that seem miraculous when compared to 2005: 6 browser windows open (4 of which were *ebay*!) plus RSS feed reader open too. (That said, Opera has still Poofed with fewer windows...)

I've been thinking of getting a big card...
 
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#18
Originally Posted by manvinder
Now, will this work for cards having different swap-file configuration? How does 770 behave in such a scenario?

My apprehensions come from 2 64MB cards I have - will I still be able use them?
I plan to install the swap-file (of 64MB) on my 1GB card.
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I went ahead and extended virtual memory (64MB) on my 1GB card and am quite happy with 770's behaviour when I change memory cards.

Now I can remove 1GB card (with swap-file installed) and insert 64MB card (with NO swap-file installed) -- 770 picks it up without any complaint. Virtual-memory settings in control panel are changed to reflect settings on the card inserted.
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Originally Posted by manvinder
I went ahead and extended virtual memory (64MB) on my 1GB card and am quite happy with 770's behaviour when I change memory cards.

Now I can remove 1GB card (with swap-file installed) and insert 64MB card (with NO swap-file installed) -- 770 picks it up without any complaint. Virtual-memory settings in control panel are changed to reflect settings on the card inserted.
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See? Told you so.
 
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#20
I noticed yesterday that the same thing happens (close all programs dialog) when you use the usb cable so I wouldn't be concerned.
 
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