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Intel will also have a mobile phone platform in the near future.
It runs on an atom chip with Moblin as Operating System.

http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/22/i...-1-for-phones/

If you look at the pictures of Moblin you will notice that they seem a bit similar to Maemo 5.
Therefore I post it, Maemo 5 and Moblin 2 have many similarities. It is important to know that both the user interfaces are based on Mobile GNOME (Hildon).
Maemo 5 is heavily based on Debian, while Moblin many parts of other distributions has ( Red Hat Linux).
I wonder how it will go in the future , Nokia will go to Maemo 6 (to Qt) , and Moblin will keep using GTK ?

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intel was also showing of a iphone like mockup, only that it had hdmi out and some degree f usb under a cover on the side...

seems we are heading for interesting times, yet again...
 
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So much for the "moblin targets netbooks, not handhelds" mantra. Good to see some competition though :-)
 

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Saw this on my way out the door this morning... I'm actually somewhat excited about this.
 

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I think Intel will be dangerous, because it will probably license to the pc makers. They may wind up joining Nokia's Maemo. I hope the two merge. I don't like all of the Linux distros for desktop. too confusing. I want a super linux for mobiles, not two of them.

I bet they want Qt ported, but they really already have access, don't they? I wonder if the mafw is enough to differentiate the two?
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Originally Posted by janzeeschuimers View Post
Intel will also have a mobile phone platform in the near future.
It runs on an atom chip with Moblin as Operating System.

http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/22/i...-1-for-phones/

If you look at the pictures of Moblin you will notice that they seem a bit similar to Maemo 5.
Therefore I post it, Maemo 5 and Moblin 2 have many similarities. It is important to know that both the user interfaces are based on Mobile GNOME (Hildon).
Maemo 5 is heavily based on Debian, while Moblin many parts of other distributions has ( Red Hat Linux).
I wonder how it will go in the future , Nokia will go to Maemo 6 (to Qt) , and Moblin will keep using GTK ?
Well, I thought that it would be a little late to be surprised of the combination of Intel and mobile devices in light of what has allready happened in this field.

What confuses me a little is where Nokia comes into the picture? Nokia and Intel announced this summer that they were entering into a strategic alliance in this respect with references to Moblin:
http://www.intel.com/pressroom/archi...0623corp_b.htm
http://www.nokia.com/press/press-rel...newsid=1324456

I would imagine that both Nokia and Intel see that the market of consumer computing is rapidly moving towards the mobile segment - i.e. phones and netbooks.

For Intel this should be interesting in that there is a HW market here, and they want to go down-stream towards end-user market. Being then also able to skip Windows/Microsoft out of the wagon, should be no disadvantage.

For Nokia this means that they are fairly well positioned to take over a large chunk of the "PC market" (both with phones/maemo and also their new netbooks - if they can get the netbook price down, that is).

Nokia (regrettably) has announced that they at the same time are now planning to transform into a media company - where one can fear they are planning to lock in their large consumer computer customer base (to be) in the worst of Apple-manner.

So where are we and Nokia heading in the mobile (linux) area? I'm a little confused of what Nokia's involvement with Intel/Moblin may mean.
 
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Originally Posted by janzeeschuimers View Post
while Moblin many parts of other distributions has ( Red Hat Linux).
Fedora Linux.

Originally Posted by christexaport View Post
I think Intel will be dangerous, because it will probably license to the pc makers. They may wind up joining Nokia's Maemo. I hope the two merge.
They already collaborate. Such as with oFono, GNOME Mobile

I want a super linux for mobiles, not two of them.
Intel has different interests than Nokia. Such as Linux boot time in which Intel has put substantial effort.

You could see it as various Android or Symbian flavors. A lot is the same under the hood.
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Intel and Microsoft are porting a browser plugin (not 'full Silverlight') of Silverlight to Linux/LPIA (Atom) specifically for Moblin. It should be available summer 2010, MS will provide more details in march. It'll be used in Intel's 'Atom App Store'.

Note the port is totally unrelated to Moonlight. So for Maemo, Nokia or ARM this is of no value.

My source is Webwereld (Dutch) (Google Translate)

According to this post on Moonlight mailing list Moonlight 1.0 and Mono 2.2.1 run on Ubuntu 9.04/ARM (well, in QEMU).

I have to say only Silverlight 2.0 and later is interesting for me because that is what the few sites which use Silverlight are using. You'd also still need a license from Microsoft to play the audio and video codecs!
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I think Intel will be dangerous, because it will probably license to the pc makers.
Not really (although I don't see why that would be "dangerous" in any case). Moblin is free-speech and free-beer (and now belongs to the Linux Foundation).

They may wind up joining Nokia's Maemo. I hope the two merge. I don't like all of the Linux distros for desktop. too confusing. I want a super linux for mobiles, not two of them.
With Maemo, Android, WebOS, LiMo, ALP, Motomagx, and a dozen flavours of Openmoko it's already way too late for that.
 

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this is of no value.
Much the same can be said for Silverlight - I've never accessed a site that requires it, and if I did find a site that needed it I wouldn't be visiting the site a second time.
 

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