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Nokia's not the new Apple. Nokia is the new Nokia. And I mean exactly what I'm saying. Maemo and open source is a whole new avenue and way of doing things and they seem to be embracing it. We'll see where it goes from here.
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I hope Nokia doesn't become what Apple has become. User interface is important, but I hope Nokia won't sacrifice the rest for just a better UI.
The user experience is not only the UI, but a lot of other things.
Maybe you could give us an example of a company which doesn't focus on the user ?
All the ones I know do, and would not remain alive without doing so. Hell, even Microsoft is very user focused... One of their software developing motto is said to be "if the user doesn't see the bug, it's not a bug", or something like that...
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The focus at Apple is not in fact user experience any more, it's industrial design and shiny things. Sells boxes though...
What a ridiculous motto. It's still a bug... Not seeing it is one of the biggest problems because it's a potential hole too.
Talking about the user is not the same as thinking about the user and acting about the user.
The thing is, when you move that dev process differently, the key is 'experience', which the UI is certainly a big part of. And if you encourage people to develop for it (not just big companies), helping them understand that is very important. I think we agree with each other there...
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We agree on this, but for example I prefer powerful software with poorly designed (or even slightly buggy) UI to weak but intuitive and easy to use software. To each his own, but I see the user interface as a secondary element in user experience, the quality of the results produced by the application being the first one.
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No, I think you miss my point - Apple all those years ago focused on the user. Nokia is doing that right now.
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Many years ago, when Apple brought the Macintosh to us, there was a heavy emphasis on the mythical user, with many reams of paper and documents published by Apple discussing what was required in an application, behaviours, placement of buttons and menue items, and so on.
Those days are not gone, but it seems to me that the emphasis has changed at Apple.
There is a torch still to be borne on this 'User experience'/UI/HCI thing though.
I'd venture to suggest that Nokia has grabbed that torch, perhaps unwittingly, with the imminent release of the N900, the excitement around it, the potential that it has, and the advancement of Maemo. Unwittingly because I really don't think they saw the N900 was going to generate as much excitement as it can (has?).
We have UI guidelines, we have N900s being used by excited people at onedotzero, we have discussions with execs and developers ongoing. For me, it's like a return to the heady days of macintosh-ism when the world was the oyster, and the tool to get the pearl was getting the user excited and comfortable with the device and its applications.
Arguably, this focus on the user is much more important on devices like the N900 for 3 reasons: Firstly, as with all mobile devices, the space limitations on the screen are a huge driver to getting it right; secondly, the mode of interaction is paramount (and must be appropriate not just for the device but for the person) and third, such devices are constant companions (much more than PCs ever were or will be) and any little niggle is going to turn out to be a big pain in a short time.
(One thing: Industrial Design does not equal User Experience...)
I'm sure Nokia sees this, and has for some time, and maybe I've missed the ongoing work regarding this on Symbian devices, but the N900, even as a step along the Maemo road, is a device that it is essential to get right for the user (or, learn from the mistakes it makes)
I wonder, is Nokia the new Apple, boldly grabbing the UI torch and going forward with its user experience mantra?
If this can continue, perhaps the future is bright...
Disclaimer: yes, I use a macintosh, have ever since 1986 (always upgraded, but still have the first one, a Plus that still works...), coded on it, played on it, swore at it (still do), etc. etc. I'd rather not have another 'Apple is the antichrist' set of replies to this - I think the 'experience' focus is what's interesting.
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