Yeah pretty much as expected. Only thing that suprised me was Apple sort of making it personal with the Vanjoki quote.
The fanboisih side of me really hopes that Nokia's next legal papers includes the most famous Steve Jobs quote of them all (I mean Picasso had a saying he said good artists copy great artists steal. And we have always been shameless about stealing great ideas).
the battle is hotting Nokia just have put a new press release out on there site
correct me if i'm wrong but i think these look like new patent violations accusations the last press release was 10 patents violated and mostly to do with GSM technology
Nokia requests ITC investigation into Apple patent infringement
December 29, 2009
Espoo, Finland - Nokia announced it has today filed a complaint with the United States International Trade Commission (ITC) alleging that Apple infringes Nokia patents in virtually all of its mobile phones, portable music players, and computers.
The seven Nokia patents in this complaint relate to Nokia's pioneering innovations that are now being used by Apple to create key features in its products in the area of user interface, as well as camera, antenna and power management technologies. These patented technologies are important to Nokia's success as they allow better user experience, lower manufacturing costs, smaller size and longer battery life for Nokia products.
"Nokia has been the leading developer of many key technologies in small electronic devices" said Paul Melin, General Manager, Patent Licensing at Nokia. "This action is about protecting the results of such pioneering development. While our litigation in Delaware is about Apple's attempt to free-ride on the back of Nokia investment in wireless standards, the ITC case filed today is about Apple's practice of building its business on Nokia's proprietary innovation." http://www.nokia.com/press/press-releases
Go to us patent office and go to search and type in Nokia as assignee. You get thousands and thousands of patents. Nokia makes patents and they have every right to sue. They are doing the innovating.
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That is legal stuff that is required to be posted on a press release having anything to do with stocks or future profit projections or just covering their arse in case.
If they make any kind of statement projecting profits or possible profits in a press release they have to include that legal small type as required. They are just covering their arse legally.
The real issue here is Nokia makes a crap load of patents, more than a lot of other Corps.
If you don't believe me then go to us patent office and type in Nokia as assignee name and see how many thousands of patents they have.
This is a valid legal argument. Nokia is a big Corp. with many employees making thousands of patents for the company. Someone has to start "stepping up" and claiming value for those patents that their employees have spent so much time on.
Think about it, what if you are an employee for Nokia and you spent so much time creating a new invention/patent for mobile devices or the technology that they use and then the attorney for the company does not step up and defend your patent or invention from other companies just taking it whenever they want to and selling millions of devices based on it.
Wouldn't you feel very betrayed?
I feel good that this guy is finally stepping up and defending his fellow employees hard work on patents.
I hope he does his/her job good and supports his company and fellow employees.
have you read that part at the bottom FORWARD-LOOKING STATEMENTS is that nokia being whitty or predicting the future lol
they rattle off a massive list some serious, some kinda attacking and whitty
have you read that part at the bottom FORWARD-LOOKING STATEMENTS is that nokia being whitty or predicting the future lol
they rattle off a massive list some serious, some kinda attacking and whitty
A Forward-Looking Statement is a United States business law term. All businesses have to make forecasts or predictions, however they also have to shield themselves so that their predictions or forecasts can't be used against them.
Specific parts of the law give Businesses the ability to indicate that a statement is "Forward-Looking" by the use of specific words (such as "believe," "estimate," "anticipate," "plan," "predict," "may," "hope," "can," "will," "should," "expect," "intend," "is designed to").
In other words: It's a cover-your-***-move while still putting pressure on others.
Anybody have link to the actual legal papers? It seems like Nokia has, as expected, broadened scope of alleged patent infringments. Nokia's brief press release mentions UI, camera and power management patents.
Engadget has new article about the case. It's actually good example of how blogs recycle information. Based on finnish article in Taloussanomat, then key points translated into english in Nokia Views and finally ends up in Engadget.
Anyway thanks to Engadget for posting links to the legal papers.
I, for one, hope that Nokia is actually heard. Not because I want Apple punished or Nokia to win; but because as a company, you have to operate within the laws and confinements such as patents rightfully so and it seems like Nokia wasn't trying to go for anything other than "licenses" and Apple is acting rather bullish.
Seems like I got my wish, and Nokia has taken the quotes in Apple's countersue papers personally. ITC papers do indeed include the famous Steve Jobs quote about stealing:
"Apple's unauthorized use of Nokia's inventions is consistent with a long-standing Apple corporate tradition. In 1996, Apple founder and CEO Steve Jobs appeared in the PBS documentary, "Triumph of the Nerds," and freely acknowledged Apple's use of other's ideas.
"Picasso had a saying," Jobs stated in the interview, "'good artists copy, great artists steal.'" Jobs then added, "and we have always been shameless about stealing great ideas."
There are examples for each patent showing a Nokia product which had commercial implementation before Apple had one and specific examples from Apple products showing the infringment. However, these are marked ”Confidential” and not found in the publicly availeable versions of the documents. Some lucky court clerk can also play with physical evidence consisting of Apple's iPhone 3GS, iPod Nano and Nokia's 7205, E61i, E71x, 5800 Express Music, N85.
Nokia asks ITC to:
"Nokia seeks a permanent exclusion order prohibiting the entry of Apple's infringing electronic devices into the United States. Nokia also requests a permanent cease and desist order prohibiting Apple from importing, admitting or withdrawing from a foreign trade zone, marketing, advertising, demonstrating, warehousing inventory for distribution, distributing, offering for sale, selling, licensing, repairing, maintaining, updating, using, or transferring outside the United States for sale in the United States infringing electronic devices."
EDIT2: The new Delaware court papers include the seven patents from the ITC case.
