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2009-11-12 , 21:50
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Originally Posted by mikec View Post
I have a lot of respect for Apple , Indeed we have two iMacs and a Aluminum Macbook in the house, but mine was the last one they did before they sealed in the battery. Today it froze for the first time. No problem took the battery out and reboot.

Then I realized what it was that wound me up about apple products of late. They seal up the bloody battery......why?

You know that a year down the line its only going to hold half its charge. why oh Apple Why?
You can take the computer to Apple and they will replace the battery for you, it's just not meant to be user-replacable. They do it for a reason - the infrastructure required to house a replaceable battery takes up space... space that could be filled by a bigger battery. Hence, the new Macbooks get a couple of extra hours charge. Sure, "power users" will be upset that they can't carry around a second battery and change it if need be, but the majority of the market are not power users. That's their business model.

I've had my Macbook Pro since 2007, and it's the computer I code on. It's never crashed, so I'm very happy with it.
 
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2009-11-12 , 21:52
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Originally Posted by mikec View Post
You know that a year down the line its only going to hold half its charge.
It won't. Well, it eventually will, but since they switched to Lithium Polymer technology they won't wear out as quickly as regular Lithium Ion batteries.
And I don't use a single Apple product, I do own an unused 30gig 5th gen iPod though. Appologies for that
 
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2009-11-12 , 21:59
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Actually he just wanted to take out the battery to SHUT THE computer DOWN, not for replacing it
 
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2009-11-12 , 22:08
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Apple seal up batteries on " I-Everything". Consumers CAN change batteries when I last looked.
 
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2009-11-12 , 22:10
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I think iPhone is boring and overhyped. My sis bought one and i get to use it and try out Youtube and was like what the hell..it doesn't show u the page like a normal pc browser would...it's just pointless. Sure you can search for a particular video and watch it right away..but it doesn't feel right without the ability to see full view of the website. Same thing with other sites like Amazon and Ebay...it sucks to see only cut out version of the sites.

Also I don't know if it's any good to see website in portrait mode because it's too small. I am looking at some sites with iPhone in portrait and it's kind of small to view the whole thing...Maybe it's best to view it ONLY in landscape and maybe that's why Nokia want it to be in landscape.

Another boring thing about the iPhone and i know it's outdated but without multitasking and ability to switch and see multiple screens at ONCE, it really suck!
 
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2009-11-12 , 22:13
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Originally Posted by romanianusa View Post
I think iPhone is boring and overhyped. My sis bought one and i get to use it and try out Youtube and was like what the hell..it doesn't show u the page like a normal pc browser would...it's just pointless. Sure you can search for a particular video and watch it right away..but it doesn't feel right without the ability to see full view of the website. Same thing with other sites like Amazon and Ebay...it sucks to see only cut out version of the sites.

Also I don't know if it's any good to see website in portrait mode because it's too small. I am looking at some sites with iPhone in portrait and it's kind of small to view the whole thing...Maybe it's best to view it ONLY in landscape and maybe that's why Nokia want it to be in landscape.

Another boring thing about the iPhone and i know it's outdated but without multitasking and ability to switch and see multiple screens at ONCE, it really suck!
Can we move the thread back
 
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2009-11-13 , 10:38
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Originally Posted by Thor View Post
They do that so you have to pay them to replace the battery.
Does it really make them that much money? If so, why doesn't anyone else do this with their laptops? or phones? I'm willing to believe that's the reason, but it is still something about Apple that has always perplexed me. And it just seems like if it was so lucrative, more other people would do it too. And it's not exactly like the replacement batteries for other computers are cheap. So it seems like there's plenty of money to be made just selling batteries (including extra, backup batteries people get--which Apple loses out on). How much does a battery replacement on a MacBook cost anyway?

I agree with chritto that having a user replaceable battery, especially on a cellphone/iPod, requires a design that takes up more space. So the extra space may allow for a larger battery. Or the non-user replaceable battery is part of how Apple can make the iPhone and the current generation of MacBooks so thin. Given the tolerances on these devices, every millimeter certainly counts. This makes more sense to me as an explanation, because whereas it's hard to imagine battery replacement is such a great business for Apple, it's easy to understand that sleek hardware design is paramount for Apple and anything that gives them an edge in this area, they're going to go for.
 
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2009-11-13 , 11:43
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1. Afaik you can shut any pc/notebook down by holding the power button for 2-5 seconds. Did you try this yet?

2. Although there's no 'battery bay door' on the new macbook/pros, you can still access them through the same way of upgrading their RAM and Harddrives. Which are 'user replaceable' according to Apple's manual.

And yeah, from the pictures I've seen of the new battery, they still packaged modularly, so it shouldn't be that big deal to access and replace them yourself provided that you can buy the parts.

PS: I think this has to do with Apple's green movement too. Maybe they can collect some sort of carbon credit by exerting more control over their battery ecosystem, especially the disposal part.
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